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I downloaded the Life on Earth Intro as well and must say I am underwhelmed.
The ebook weights it at a hefty 998MB most of which is wasted on a few videos (including the dull intro). The actual text with information is really short and simple, not enough for even a highschool textbook in my opinion, but maybe I am being two critical here.

I hope a lot of publisher jump on the band wagon and get something going ..

T.

What's the title of YOUR interactive textbook, or are you just complaining because a free demo wasn't enough for your high-end needs.
 
How are these moot points? They seem like excellent points to me. And no, we're not only arguing about whether the end product is best for students. If authors and educational institutions don't embrace this because of its unnecessarily restrictive nature, then this whole initiative is a moot point!

While I think the effort is pretty cool, I agree with the criticisms. And I'm also not impressed with the 350,00 downloads. Hasn't Apple sold about 50 million iPads? So one out of every 100+ iPad owners bothered to try this out in the first three days following a huge publicity event? Does that really constitute a success?
The publishers behind this endeavor represent over 90% of that industry. Hardly think that is a moot point.
 
Leave it to Apple to identify an industry protected by unlimited government spending (higher education) to squeeze into and charge ridiculous prices.
 
Leave it to Apple to identify an industry protected by unlimited government spending (higher education) to squeeze into and charge ridiculous prices.

Are you referring to the free software or the $15 books?

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I think that this is exactly the reason why iBooks will never be as successful as Amazon's Kindle platform. Kindle runs anywhere, from the web over PCs, Macs and all popular mobile platforms. The full featured version of iBooks only runs on the iPad.

The Kindle app "runs everywhere" but doesn't do very much.

The other show stopper is the license agreement of iBooks Author. Whoever agrees to these terms either hasn't read them or failed to understand the implications. On the other hand, Apple's iBooks Author EULA terms are probably either illegal in many countries or not enforceable, but they certainly reveal Apple's true colors and ugly face under the shiny design.

You keep saying this, but you remain wrong about it. But in any case, if you only want your hypothetical books to be on the Kindle, it's simple: Don't use iBooks Author. Meanwhile, people who want their books to be a) available on all devices, and b) as interactive as possible, will publish their works for both formats.
 
1) The Kindle Fire was going to allow for this type of publishing months ago before Apple debuted it. However, they've just now started pushing the new format and we have yet to see any book take advantage of it. No problem for the most part though as the textbooks are still excellent.

2) iTunes U is great, however I think it's going to suffer in the long run because the truth is that this country lacks good teachers who can actually teach. This can be compared to an audiobook. Even though the material is brilliant, if the reader plainly sucks, it doesn't do anything for you.

The same thing with the textbooks. A lot of teachers are just going to learn how to pull from other sources, just paraphrase stuff, and build "textbooks" out of pieces. It's not like they don't do it already.

3) This just gives kids a reason to bring their iPad to school, play with it when they are given free time, and isolate themselves from the other kids. It's a great tool for learning, yes, but it shouldn't be the ONLY way to teach and it shouldn't be what kids look at all day from the time they go out to the school door to the time they go to bed.
 
They are available in UK since day 1, well at least Life on Earth.

Beside in UK we don't use the same textbooks that they use in US, and at launch Apple cannot have deal with all the publishers in the world.

So it is. Thanks for the tip - downloading now. I'd quite like to get the Algebra 1 book that was released on Thursday (looks like a book my son might find useful, though he'd probably disagree). Hopefully we'll get some good content soon...
 
Fix the bugs

I tried the samples of the Algebra and Geometry texts. Crash, crash and more crash. Seriously, don't these people even do the most basic testing before launching these things?
 
I made a awesome live wallpaper for the iPhone and got over 500,000 downloads and I charged nothing for it, damn I should have charged at least $0.99-$1.99

Now this app here got $5,246,500 already someone is banking.
 
While I do believe that e-books are eventually going to be the future of textbooks, I can't say I'm very impressed by life on earth as a text book.

For one thing, there is very little text there. I don't think that the two included chapters are enough for one week of HS biology. *Freshman* biology. But if the textbook were 30 chapters long, it would take up almost 30 GB!

For another, I think that the interactive bits are gimmicky. I mean, it's cool that you can watch the DNA strand rotate...but that won't make you learn one tiny bit more than a static drawing a DNA strand. Nor do I really believe that it will engage students more than the picture...it's cool at first, in part because of the novelty...but just watching something rotate isn't really that exciting. And, more importantly, it doesn't really *teach* anything. It's just eye-candy.


Maybe the actual textbooks are better. But this just seems designed to show off the iPad's capabilities without regard to actually teaching anything.
 
Its actually only 90,000 people that have been made. Combined, they bought a total of 350 thousand book.

These number are nowhere near where they should be as a "successful sell".
Maybe it'll become more successful later, but right now I can't see it as anything else but *slow*.
 
What's the title of YOUR interactive textbook, or are you just complaining because a free demo wasn't enough for your high-end needs.

We've got to stop this crap where we attack people merely for criticizing something. The Life on Earth book did suck, and was almost a gig in size for like two tiny, do-nothing chapters.
 
I downloaded E.O Wilson's book. Our kids are going to learn in a whole new and exciting way! I've also tried the Ibook Author software. If you know how to use Keynote, you can use iAuthor. I created a simple storybook for my daughter in about 20 min and she loved the different interactions!

I can't wait to see more from the ibook store!

Great stuff. I only pity the competitors now. Usually they copy a devices but this feature is impossible for them to obtain and make beautiful. Just like how siri beats google voice but siri is done beautifully.

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Watching one of the videos of student using the books, I was struck by by two things:

1) They were typing in notes using single-finger-tapping while staring at the keyboard. So much for touch-typing skills.

2) They were missing the ability to quickly scribble a good drawing.

The world will be so much better off when this current Apple fetish for fingers-only gets subjugated in favor of devices which embrace good stylus input as well. The real world needs both.

I would rather no stylus if it is a portable device..
 
I tried the samples of the Algebra and Geometry texts. Crash, crash and more crash. Seriously, don't these people even do the most basic testing before launching these things?

I thought bugs and crashing was a Microsoft affliction. :eek:
 
Are you referring to the free software or the $15 books?

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The Kindle app "runs everywhere" but doesn't do very much.



You keep saying this, but you remain wrong about it. But in any case, if you only want your hypothetical books to be on the Kindle, it's simple: Don't use iBooks Author. Meanwhile, people who want their books to be a) available on all devices, and b) as interactive as possible, will publish their works for both formats.

In effect wasting time, driving costs, increasing barriers to entry and makes for a mess when it comes to content management. Its not that we don't get that we can write "one webpage for each browser", its that we see it as destructive to do so. Its simple: We dont need a new browser war. We don't need word documents that only work with Office. We dont need books that only work on the iPad.

p.s.

and yes, in ways i actually do write textbooks.

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Great stuff. I only pity the competitors now. Usually they copy a devices but this feature is impossible for them to obtain and make beautiful. Just like how siri beats google voice but siri is done beautifully.

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I would rather no stylus if it is a portable device..

because the stylus is so detrimental to portability?
 
too bad

this will never work. With schools around the country out of money do you really think they will buy Ipads and let them take them home. This could work in college where you actually pay for the Ipad.

Good try but the Apple tax will kill it.
 
In effect wasting time, driving costs, increasing barriers to entry and makes for a mess when it comes to content management. Its not that we don't get that we can write "one webpage for each browser", its that we see it as destructive to do so. Its simple: We dont need a new browser war. We don't need word documents that only work with Office. We dont need books that only work on the iPad.

p.s.

and yes, in ways i actually do write textbooks.

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because the stylus is so detrimental to portability?

you're not thinking hard enough.

View it like this. You wouldn't keep all your pencils floating around your bag. You would put them in a pencil case to make it 'one' item.

You wouldn't wear a watch that you need to put the hands in yourself each time to check it.

You wouldn't want an iPad where you couldn't just fish it out of your bag and use it without fishing around for a much smaller object that has probably made its way to the bottom of your bag under a bunch of things when you could just use your finger and save 5 minutes of your life.
 
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