Early Signs of OS X 10.9 Unsurprisingly Showing Up in Web Logs

[smulji]

And, I assume Pro users also depend on Pro machines, which Apple stopped producing. So, yes, it is likely they will restrict apps to the App Store.

Actually, they've stopped updating, not stopped producing Pro machines. And if you take Tim Cook on his word, Apple has something exciting next year for Pro users. What form that takes, I don't know but let's wait instead of assuming Apple has written off the Pro user.

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Luckily we have a while to go before that happens.

Personally, I think that's closer than we think. Not 2013, but I wouldn't doubt if it is 2014 when ARM64-based processors are out.

 

[faroZ06]

+1 to you being insane -- nobody expects you to buy new hardware every OS release. one of the valuable things about Macs is how many years of service they get...my 2006 imac is still in use, running ML.

I would still be using my 2006 iMac if the GPU didn't die out on me. Thanks, NVIDIA, for the faulty chip. Thanks, Apple, for randomly changing the iMac design so that it's near impossible to access the GPU.

They got the awesome and easy-to-open iMac G5 design then decided to fix something that wasn't broken, which caused me to be unable to fix something that was broken.

 

[Virinprew]

The problem is that each release is full of bugs, and each release breaks features like 3-finger swiping back in Finder (which sometimes works sometimes doesn't, while it worked all the time in SL), etc… The more frequently they release a new OS X, the more time we have to spend on a buggy system, and the less bugs they can fix until the next release.

I still think Leopard was the best, by the standards at that time. Back then features like Spaces, Time Machine, QuickLook and Stacks would be so awesome, they would really make your computer a lot better. Now you get small features added, but full of bugs and inconsistencies (like notifications, gestures, Mission Control, iCloud, AutoSave, Resume, etc…).

I think that Apple has gone from a very well controlled system with great solid features to a loosely looked-after system with tons of different small features, many that annoy you more than they help, while the old ones stick around with broken aspects and new bugs that never get noticed.

I think Autosave & Resume are very useful. But I agree about 3-finger swipe as back button in Finder. I used that a lot.

 

[Virinprew]

Well, what is left of ios that is truly missing from os ten?

Theres only a few ios things left, since apple had brought dual microphones into their line of machines, i dont think siri should be left out.

But siri is just one thing. The other thing? I think icloud. Truly integrate icloud in the os some how. In a genuinely good way.

Otheriwse, what can they do?

iBooks, Maps and Siri could be added to OSX. But they have to improve Maps and Siri first.

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I loooove Launchpad. I do not use the dock any more, except for the Finder (I wish they'd put it in there).

Then again, I loooove the Magic Trackpad. With it I'm in multi-touch heaven.

I wish that iOS worked that way, where the rows of icons came up Launchpad-like, and left a clear desktop when I pinch it away..

I thought the uninstall process couldn't be simpler, just drag items to the Trash. Did I miss something? (I'm strictly in the consumer camp, though).

I think the Power User stuff will stay there, just not at the forefront and customizable..

I also use Launchpad. I am not the fan of Tons-of-tiny-smidgen icons on the dock. I have nothing but Finder, Downloads and Trash on my Dock. That way only running apps are on the dock. It is cleaner and not distracting.

 

[marc11]

iBooks, Maps and Siri could be added to OSX.


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What would you use a Maps App for over just the web? Unless it had someway to sync offline maps and routes/directions from OSX to an iOS device? Hmmm.

 

[Virinprew]

What would you use a Maps App for over just the web? Unless it had someway to sync offline maps and routes/directions from OSX to an iOS device? Hmmm.

For me, I use web-based Google map. So yes, i agree with you. But for Apple, they don't have web-based map (correct me if i'm wrong). So pushing its map to OSX make sense. But I won't use it anyway .

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Cool. But new UI could look ugly.

 

[trip1ex]

Apple working on future products? Absurd.

 

[marc11]

Apple working on future products? Absurd.

Hey they gotta do something to entice 2010/2011 MBP and iMac owners to upgrade next year, looks like Airplay Mirror wasn't enough for us old 2010 holdouts....lol

 

[mankar4]

Which will probably not work with my 2007 MBP I didn't upgrade to ML for fear of slowing things down. Guess it's time to think about looking into a new machine.

I did a clean install of ml on my sl 2007 mbp and it got a lot faster. Not sure if it's the os or the clean install, but it got a considerable boost.

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Yeah. Me too.

I held out on sl until ml and got a new rmbp. I love ml, the small detail improvements are excellent, notifications are helpful, totalspaces has brought back spaces. I even updated my 2007 mbp to ml.

 

[mrsir2009]

I wonder how many more computer models they'll drop with 10.9...?

 

[mdgm]

I wonder how many more computer models they'll drop with 10.9...?

I hope they don't drop the 09 Mini but since that only just made the cut for 10.8 it may go.

 

[Woodcrest64]

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That made my night!! ROTFLMAO!

 

[coolspot18]

That's Steve in heaven. Guess they have wifi there...
Cause I'm pretty sure AT&T won't be giving you a single bar, even on LTE, there.

Why must people continue to make Steve jokes on every article.

The guy is dead. Gone. He's not coming back.

 

[mrsir2009]

Why must people continue to make Steve jokes on every article.

The guy is dead. Gone. He's not coming back.

Chill out, man

 

[koban4max]

This is great news knowing that Apple is working on the 10.9.

I'm still on 10.7.4 and thinking about skipping 10.8 and waiting for 10.9. Thoughts?

This is not a great news. As matter of fact...this is bad news. They should try to fix Lion and Mountain lion problems before moving on.

 

[iOrbit]

iBooks, Maps and Siri could be added to OSX. But they have to improve Maps and Siri first.

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I also use Launchpad. I am not the fan of Tons-of-tiny-smidgen icons on the dock. I have nothing but Finder, Downloads and Trash on my Dock. That way only running apps are on the dock. It is cleaner and not distracting.

unfortuantely i think maps is a waste. i dont know about others but i rarely look at maps when im at home on a computer. the times i do, im happy to fire u google maps, not an app.

ibooks and siri/icloud integration would be welcome.

i would like some improved aesthetics on the menu bar, its not slick. i don't like the on/off abruptness of the menu bar changing from app to app. there should be a more appealing animated transition..

 

[Mr. Dee]

Regarding 10.10

I think we need to accept the fact there will be 10.10, 10.11, 10.12 etc.

X (10) represents the platform

.x (decimal) represents the latest version of that platform.

 

[katewes]

The problem with a new OSX every year is that, now, Apple don't bother getting the previous OS's rock stable. With Snow Leopard and before, we got iterations going to .8 or beyond. Now, with Lion, it seems 10.7.5 could be the end of the road, with remaining bugs in that release affecting Time Machine.

It seems Apple's new approach to software is "close enough is good enough". A sad goodbye to the days when, eventually, after around 8-10 iterations the OSX would be totally rock solid.

 

[Inside_line]

The whole purpose of updating the OS should be to introduce major new software architecture that can't be integrated with the previous OS. Integrating social media sites, scripts that save files automatically, and changing window management don't constitute a valid reason to release a new OS. For those business users, OS upgrades are often a headache... old apps aren't fully compatible, and it costs developers time and money to update software. Updating the OS yearly is a marketing ploy to create the image that the Apple brand is always fresh, has exciting new features that windows doesn't have (even though you may not need or use), and it drives older hardware to become obsolete faster than if they updated the OS only when necessary, say every 5 years. In the end, they are a hardware company, they do not care about the bugs and the headaches, they care about hardware sales, period. The software wouldn't consistently come out buggy if it were any other way.

 

[iisdan]

No

The whole purpose of updating the OS should be to introduce major new software architecture that can't be integrated with the previous OS. Integrating social media sites, scripts that save files automatically, and changing window management don't constitute a valid reason to release a new OS. For those business users, OS upgrades are often a headache... old apps aren't fully compatible, and it costs developers time and money to update software. Updating the OS yearly is a marketing ploy to create the image that the Apple brand is always fresh, has exciting new features that windows doesn't have (even though you may not need or use), and it drives older hardware to become obsolete faster than if they updated the OS only when necessary, say every 5 years. In the end, they are a hardware company, they do not care about the bugs and the headaches, they care about hardware sales, period. The software wouldn't consistently come out buggy if it were any other way.

Apple upgrades their OS with new features everyone uses. Like being able to see every change to a document and go back to it. Thats useful. thats cool. When upgrading from vista to windows 7 people get what? uhmmm... $200 of behind the seens **** no one really notices... that seems like a ploy to me der bud.

 

[csHokie]

OSX Tabby Cat - an OS for your tablet and Mac

 

[BvizioN]

For OSX 10.9 I'd like:

- improve finder file and folder display/management
- unify the behaviour of the 'green button' controls on windows
- improve multi-monitor and spaces (this needs a great deal of attention)
- improve graphics performance/drivers/subsystem by a large 'leap'
- improve the uninstall process for applications
- improve the speed, and how iCloud is integrated by streamlining its usage and making it less 'forcefully known/used' in some of the applications like TextEdit
- remember OSX is a power users OS, and for the love of god don't dumb it down. However, iOS apps and things like notification centre and notes + reminders are useful. Launchpad? Get rid of that crap
- in Notification center, I wouldn't mind being able to use that to add widgets to like weather etc. and get rid of the Dashboard completely

What is wromg with launchpad? That's all i use to launch applications and i find it lot easier then other means.

 

[antonis]

I really just want native ZFS.

Amen to that, but I don't keep my hopes up, at least not for 10.x
Now, that would be a change.

 

[xwk88]

If you design operating system features that require newer and newer hardware for seemingly no reason (power nap, anyone?) then you must be insane

I usually stay away from discusions here but just so you understand the reason power nap only works on solid state memory is because it wouldnt be quiet and your computer wouldn't be "sleeping" if the drive was spinning all night doing updates.....

now with that being said Im hoping for some biger changes with 10.9 I love 10.8 and 10.6...... maybe they can do what they did with 10.8 and add some nice features plus do another clean up like 10.6 and make everything smoother.... 10.6 was the best update, grand central was the best idea.....

I wanna see siri, speed improvements maybe some fat trimming of the os is due.... launch pad is a good idea they need to bild on, NC needs more functions(some on suggested it should replace dashboard) they NEED to rework i life no major update in this year so 2013 should be it..... bring back iWeb.... stop adding crap to safari and make it snappier then chrome.... I love safaris functions but the speed bothers me chrome feels a lot fast on the mac..... face time for mac needs work..... I never use it because its weird I can;t put my finger on the why tho....and please no arm, unless it is an add on kind of thing... last but not least make it more consistent across the apps...... look and feel on the mac always had a pattern until lion..... go back to the way things were simple not flashy leave the slow nasty eye hurting flash to W8 with mismatching color... apple knows better, ask sir Ive.... lol oh yea they did....

 

[Zwhaler]

why? what practical advantage does that yield?

i like incremental because i get packages of value more often. value is good because it serves the various jobs-to-be-done im tasked with for my work and life.

I made that statement because of my opinion that some of these more common "incremental" upgrades don't actually offer true value. I don't find value in Lion, and I don't find a whole lot of value in ML either, but that's just my opinion. The reason being that they changed a lot of elements that didn't need to be "fixed" and should have been left alone (again, my opinion).