easy/fast/convenient bottle mockups change

Discussion in 'Design and Graphics' started by zoran, Jan 17, 2015.

  1. zoran macrumors 68030

    Jun 30, 2005
    When a client asks to be right next to the graphic designer,in order to make changes on wine bottle labels, how would you propose to work using the Adobe creative suite? The goal here is to easy change and make different proposals while the client is next to the designer and asks for changes. I was thinking to making a "smart object" of the labels typo in illustrator but one thing that i cant figure out, is how to apply different colorings to the label cause there might be an issue with the photo realistic shades that the bottle glass makes!
  2. sigmadog macrumors 6502a


    Feb 11, 2009
    near Spokane, WA
    It's a very bad idea.

    I did that once (letting the client watch/direct my work) and at the end the piece looked, and I felt, like crap. If the client wants to be the designer so bad, let them sit down and do the #$&*ing work themselves.

    That's all the advice I have.
  3. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

    Jun 30, 2005
    You are absolutely right, on the other hand, there are different types of clients, some you can handle on issues like that, others you do as they like for several reasons (large account etc.). This is the latter! ;)
  4. MacGizmo macrumors 65816


    Apr 27, 2003
    I would say that you should work the same way you work when they aren't sitting there with you. No reason to re-invent the wheel just because somebody is watching.

    The more complicated the job, the less likely the client is to stick around for it... and they'll have a better understanding of what it takes to "JUST make a few changes."
  5. superscape macrumors 6502a


    Feb 12, 2008
    East Riding of Yorkshire, UK
    Back in my days as a graphic designer I used to have a few clients who used to like to do this. You can try to dissuade them, but some just won't be dissuaded and if you want the business then you're going to have to do it.

    That said, I always used to make it very clear that having the client next to me makes me work slower and they're paying for my time... if they want to do the work the expensive way then that's fine by me (and my bank manager!) ;-)

    I agree with the above poster - just work as you always do.
  6. lucidmedia macrumors 6502a

    Oct 13, 2008
    Wellington, New Zealand
    Ahh, the dreaded ShoulderBeast:


    This is more common in some industries than in others... and I have always charged extra for it in the past. My "work and watch" rate is probably three times higher than my standard rate. I learned this from my broadcast colleagues where this is really common.

    In terms of your label, I agree that smart objects (or multiple smart objects) are the way to go. Use Layer Styles like Color Overlay and Gradient Overlay to make modifications to them inside your PSD.

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