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I would guess you guys have 10000x more G5 Macs in your parts than we do here in the Nordics so I was expecting them to be dirt cheap. And so plentiful you do not need to ship them from far away. But, even we do have "plenty" (relative) to choose from, there are always few for sale and indeed they are usually quite cheap. But, outrageous asking prices are sometimes common too but they drop when nobody is willing to pay such prices.

I am guessing that people do not generally see them very useful anymore and the guys buying them are hardline weirdos (hobbyists) 😉 who are in reality quite rare in our small population. On the other hand you might have much higher demand due more hobbyists and that is driving the prices up? Shipping: cost of shipping a such computer here to any corner of the country is max 20-30€ ($35). Maybe double if you want to insure it or ship it as fragile but no point really as the machines are so cheap anyway. In many cases shipping is more affordable than driving yourself to pick it up.

I have 4 G5 towers. First one is a 1.8GHz which my brother gave to me free. Second one is a late 2005 2.0DC which I bought for 15€ and got it shipped across the country for 20€. Third one is a late 2005 Quad which I got for helping an older gentleman to install his newer Mac which he was having some trouble with. He gave me the machine and couple of boxes of other old Mac stuff as a thank you for your help -gesture. The fourth one is also a late 2005 Quad which had bent handles but was otherwise in perfect working condition, seller asked 20€ and I drove 30 miles to pick it up.

And these prices are not super special, not everyday but every now and then you see similar prices. I would say late 2005 machines are usually somewhere between 50 and 100 euros (Quads can be anything depending on what the seller thinks he has - either a super special flagship model or the potential stupid water leak junk). Sometimes they are offered even free if you are willing to pick it up. Like I said higher asking prices also exist but they rarely sell. People are even selling working machines for use in cool PC-builds as they haven't been able to sell them as Macs.

Ps. ebay seems always have much higher prices than local classifieds or forum for sale ads. Patience seems a good idea when looking for one.
Shipping is commonly $100 for these here. Sometimes they will do lower, mine was like $75 or so it kind of depends. I think it's just the sheer weight because actual delivery is just a few days time. I do think it's being inflated due to where I live. The funny thing is I actually _need_ 2 CPUs and at least 8GBs of RAM for what I will do with it (build modern software for a 21 year old operating system). I am still 6GBs short once this arrives, but I've seen building gcc16 eat 8GBs of my 12GB Mac Pro 1,1 RAM already. Even so, it will still be much faster then the Mac mini 1.33GHZ G4 with 512MBs of RAM.

Also unfortunately not in a situation right now where I can go and pick it up easily.

For reference, enjoy these
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Shipping:
US $145.11 USPS Ground Advantage
Description: 100-120v / 200-240v. 12a / 6a. 50 -60 hertz. Power pc. 970 mp. 2.0 ghz . 512 mb. Ram No OS No. HDD No GPU.

This one has "free shipping" what a deal
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The "READ" and "PARTS ONLY" is inspiring on this listing:
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And for non-quads, this is the only thing I could recommend because I almost did this one, but it was worse spec'd had no HDD, almost certainly less RAM too:
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This one here is same speed as what I got (but it's not an early 2005, it's actually a 2004 if you look at serial number and seperated G5 metal) , but $90 shipping and no HDD.
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If you look, TWENTY people want that 2004 2.0ghz dual CPU G5 without a HDD for a total of just under $400 delivered. No proof it even boots into Mac OS X.

I lurked for quite awhile, I would say if you wait or are OK with getting an incomplete system you can do the $200-$300 range. Just in my situation if you factor in having to get an expensive ($70ish) specific SSD because you HAVE to run Tiger (or look for a SATA 3.5 inch HDD made before 2009/2010) and got one without the HDD (and also like me didn't know about the backup screws, but still at least this one should have all mounting screws intact when it arrives), it kinda just made more sense for me to get a complete system with a HDD that in the listing is showing Tiger running. If you’re OK with a single G5 you might have more options for less too, but I really will need both for building software as quickly as possible.
 
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Dear lord, that is crazy.
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People really think they are selling the greatest and rarest supercomputer of all times. But, that is ebay for you. 🙄

Here is my second Quad from local classifieds, the one with bad handles. And I sold that case empty to some guy (for 40€) who wanted to build a PC server out of it. He said he will cut the handles off so it will fit his server rack. 😝
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Ps. I just bought 4GB of PM/iMac G5 RAM for 5€ by mistake. I thought they were G4 RAM but completely misremembered the specs and didn't check. Well, I have a big box of RAM where they go now for future needs. I never get rid of vintage RAM anymore, have regretted it later many times. These DIMMs arrived just an hour ago.
 
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My biggest tip for eBay bargains is actually to take a chance on low-description, untested, or even for parts machines, because odds are, if you investigate the seller, description, or photos, you're likely to run into someone who doesn't know what they have and can get a good price on it.

My Quad was if I remember right $250 all-in, and I didn't even know it was a Quad until it got here (the listing only said it was an A1117 with no pictures of the specs sticker).


That "PARTS" "READ" listing probably has a failed LCS and may be a good candidate for an air-cool mod if it wasn't $750.
 
I need the HDD included because Tiger only runs on earlier HDDs with 512 byte sectors. Basically this is the issue:

* Original HDD will work.

* HDDs from 2006-2009 will work.

* Anything from early 2010s and up is an extreme gamble and is probably a 4k byte sector HDD. So a random WD Black from 2015 is gonna crash tiger disk utility. These drives that are 4k sector bytes sometimes do have something called 512e (512 byte sector emulation) at a firmware level like a WD Black, but Tiger doesn’t care and will call your 500GB HDD 3.2TBs and crash.

Strange. I've used a variety of SATA III drives manufactured after 2010 (including one 2016 WD Blue 1 TB and another 2017 WD Black 1 TB) in my Late 2005 for the past decade and never had the faintest issue running Tiger or its version of Disk Utility--and actually, I think the drive currently in it is a 2019 1 TB Seagate, of course running like a top. Anecdotally, I have also configured Mid 2003 machines with these drives and didn't have a problem there either as those systems use the same storage controller chip.

I've never heard of this problem before.

This one has "free shipping" what a deal

$1,949? Well duh, because it comes with Sorbet. 😛

But that's not all... You see, the emojis increase curb appeal.
 
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My biggest tip for eBay bargains is actually to take a chance on low-description, untested, or even for parts machines, because odds are, if you investigate the seller, description, or photos, you're likely to run into someone who doesn't know what they have and can get a good price on it.

My Quad was if I remember right $250 all-in, and I didn't even know it was a Quad until it got here (the listing only said it was an A1117 with no pictures of the specs sticker).


That "PARTS" "READ" listing probably has a failed LCS and may be a good candidate for an air-cool mod if it wasn't $750.
This is to the tee what I did with the Mac Pro 1,1. I kinda already mentioned it in the post but the description was "previous tenant left, no display cord, bongs". Listed as 2.66GHZ 2x2 core Xeon 2.66, 1GB RAM.

I ended up getting 2.0GHZ 2x2 core Xeon with 12GBs of RAM. It also had the original HDD + 2 others that are massive in size but 4k sector style so unusable on Tiger. It also came with the best GPU Tiger supports (ATI 1900XT 512MB) so it was a really good win. I will say WiFi/Bluetooth was removed, superdrive removed (I kinda wanted that but they put a HDD where it would go). But whatever, it's (like everything except laptops now in my apartment, I even ran an ethernet cord to my bedroom and connected it to a switchbox for my consoles/mac minis) connected to ethernet. It also came with another Apple keyboard/mouse (which I use on my Win11 work computer as well because these are awesome and real mechanical keyboards/good mice which do allow right click to be configured) and power cord.

I was lurking for a while on ebay, G5's are just a complete nightmare to buy on that platform right now. I probably looked through 50 listings, and in the end after all this research and planning I realized I got the base model 2005, which is PCI and limited to 4GBs of RAM. It's OK though. I still got the 2 G5 CPUs at 2GHz each (kinda matches the mac pro in a way), and once it's maxed to 4GB it will be pretty respectable. AGP graphics only I guess... I can always in the future try for what I really wanted (2.3 dual core late 05). If I had a quad I'd want it air cooled but I've never done a hardware mod like that. For the right price I'd make an exception I guess, but I'd feel guilty if i ran it with the OG LCS for any amount of time.

Looking back, even an '04 2GHZ would have been better because of PCI express, 8GB RAM limit, etc.
 
Strange. I've used a variety of SATA III drives manufactured after 2010 (including one 2016 WD Blue 1 TB and another 2017 WD Black 1 TB) in my Late 2005 for the past decade and never had the faintest issue running Tiger or its version of Disk Utility--and actually, I think the drive currently in it is a 2019 1 TB Seagate, of course running like a top. Anecdotally, I have also configured Mid 2003 machines with these drives and didn't have a problem there either as those systems use the same storage controller chip.

I've never heard of this problem before.



$1,949? Well duh, because it comes with Sorbet. 😛

But that's not all... You see, the emojis increase curb appeal.
It's still about 1200$ off from back in the day ($3,299 new in 05). The STRONGEST POWERPC is so cringe coming from multiple different sellers. It's like the people selling an iOS 4 iPhone 4 or iOS6 iPhone 4S, or better yet charging more to use an open source tool to downgrade to xyz version.

I have a theory. Try those same HDDs in an early Intel. Every early intel I've ever used that can run Tiger has this problem. Perhaps PowerPC did not? Maybe this was all for naught🤣

Edit: on intel it appears I just cant use it in the tiger installer as a boot volume (and yes I've tried cloning a tiger os installation over and it still wont work). So 4k sector drives may work not as boot volumes
 
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Looking back, even an '04 2GHZ would have been better because of PCI express, 8GB RAM limit, etc.

PCI Express wasn't introduced until the Late 2005 models, enabling low-latency P2P data transfer. PCI-X (used in Mid 2003 to Early 2005 models) is essentially just 64-bit PCI--meaning reliant on a centralized controller hub--but running at a significantly higher clock speed and thus allowing for much greater bandwidth. And then for reference 64-bit PCI (used from the G4 Sawtooth to MDD) just offers double the bandwidth of 32-bit PCI. And don't worry because to increase confusion, the PCI people made PCI-X and 64-bit PCI slots look almost exactly the same.

Sorry.

It's still about 1200$ off from back in the day ($3,299 new in 05). The STRONGEST POWERPC is so cringe coming from multiple different sellers. It's like the people selling an iOS 4 iPhone 4 or iOS6 iPhone 4S, or better yet charging more to use an open source tool to downgrade to xyz version.

Figured I'd take a closer look:

greenshirtenterprises said:
"Please do not buy this unit with the intention of surfing the net, it's very old and won't decode Facebook, YouTube, etc."

How disappointing. If he bothered to try the updated Safari for half as long as he spent formatting his description, he would have known that this system would easily fly with YouTube, Facebook, etc.

I didn't even buy it, and I still want my money back. Talk about false advertising!

I have a theory. Try those same HDDs in an early Intel. Every early intel I've ever used that can run Tiger has this problem. Perhaps PowerPC did not? Maybe this was all for naught🤣

Granted, I have not tried that. But I've used a circa 2018 120 GB SSD in a 2006 Mac mini and circa 2020 240 GB SSD in a 2007 iMac both running Tiger also without issue, if those are factors? Maybe it is a bug on Intel Tiger since that was compiled separately from the PowerPC retail release.
 
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PCI Express wasn't introduced until the Late 2005 models, enabling low-latency P2P data transfer. PCI-X (used in Mid 2003 to Early 2005 models) is essentially just 64-bit PCI--meaning reliant on a centralized controller hub--but running at a significantly higher clock speed and thus allowing for much greater bandwidth. And then for reference 64-bit PCI (used from the G4 Sawtooth to MDD) just offers double the bandwidth of 32-bit PCI. And don't worry because to increase confusion, the PCI people made PCI-X and 64-bit PCI slots look almost exactly the same.

Sorry.



Figured I'd take a closer look:



How disappointing. If he bothered to try the updated Safari for half as long as he spent formatting his description, he would have known that this system would easily fly with YouTube, Facebook, etc.

I didn't even buy it, and I still want my money back. Talk about false advertising!



Granted, I have not tried that. But I've used a circa 2018 120 GB SSD in a 2006 Mac mini and circa 2020 240 GB SSD in a 2007 iMac both running Tiger also without issue, if those are factors? Maybe it is a bug on Intel Tiger since that was compiled separately from the PowerPC retail release.
SSDs don't have actual 'bytes per sector', so they completely avoid the issue. I have a 128GB SSD which was $28 on amazon in my Macbook 2,1. But it came to me with a 500GB WD Black from mid 2010s that was a 4k sector drive that did have this issue. Tiger installer disk utility says it's 3.2TBs in size, crashes whenever you try to format/access it. To trigger this you need to directly connect a HDD with 4k sectors (also known as advanced format) as an internal drive, and try to set that up in the installer. Leopard and newer do not have this issue as they support 4k advanced format drives. But yea you can't do anything sneaky like try to copy over an exisiting tiger installation to it and boot it (it will never mount the HDD) and you cant format it in Leopard or newer and have it work on 10.4 installer either.
 
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I've never before heard of that problem either but I haven't installed new hdds into old machines for years anymore. I usually swap SSDs into them or let the old hdd be. But, it is good to know about the problem so I won't be wasting too much time trying to troubleshoot one some day if I happen to run into said problem.
 
Bought a Quicksilver B-revision logic board. My original is A-revision which do not support drives bigger than 120GB. The B-revision should support bigger drives as is. The board was cheap so I just bought it. Let's hope it works too. It is "untested" but the seller seemed like somebody who parts out computers and sells parts so there is some chance it might. 😉

I already have an another cpu card for it so if the board works I shall try to OC them too.
 
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Bought a Quicksilver B-revision logic board. My original is A-revision which do not support drives bigger than 120GB. The B-revision should support bigger drives as is. The board was cheap so I just bought it. Let's hope it works too. It is "untested" but the seller seemed like somebody who parts out computers and sells parts so there is some chance it might. 😉

I already have an another cpu card for it so if the board works I shall try to OC them too.
Is it a big job to replace….🫣
Is it a full strip down of your Mac.
 
Is it a big job to replace….🫣
Is it a full strip down of your Mac.
The G4 Quicksilver is not bad at all (or the other G4 towers). Maybe 5-10 min to take the old logic board out and 10-15 to put the new one in and thermal paste the cpu, reinstall cards, memory etc. The board is attached to the case lid and it is basically just a job to remove some screws and cables and then reverse the process with the new one.

So, it's nothing like G5 or something that needs full strip down.

Linked the site above because the owner has taken some great pics of the beautiful QS. 😎
 
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