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Eddy Cue: It's 'Complicated' Solving Problems With TV

Mildredop said:
Why do you keep putting Netflix in brackets?
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I'm using it as a variable for online on-demand video streaming services whose content is centered around full length TV and movie watching. In this case Netflix is the closest to being a generic name that most people would recognize. However it could also apply to services like Hulu and Amazon Instant, and will obviously have caveats related to each service.

tldr: Using "[Netflix]" is less messy than saying "Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Instant/etc." or "online on-demand video streaming ..."
 
Parasprite said:
I'm using it as a variable for online on-demand video streaming services whose content is centered around full length TV and movie watching. In this case Netflix is the closest to being a generic name that most people would recognize. However it could also apply to services like Hulu and Amazon Instant, and will obviously have caveats related to each service.

tldr: Using "[Netflix]" is less messy than saying "Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Instant/etc." or "online on-demand video streaming ..."
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And what does 'tldr' mean?

Square brackets normally mean that someone else has written that in so that the sentence makes more sense, hence my confusion.

Something like "Netflix et al" might have made more sense.
 
Mildredop said:
And what does 'tldr' mean?

Square brackets normally mean that someone else has written that in so that the sentence makes more sense, hence my confusion.

Something like "Netflix et al" might have made more sense.
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Too long didn't read (i.e., simplified summary—sort of like an abstract, but shorter).

Square brackets are used in some forms of programming to define arrays, which are... sort of like variables (I say sort of because they can contain variables). In regular writing, it's useful for jotting things down quickly as it keeps you from needing to put a bunch of extra stuff down which might confuse things. Honestly, I had been using it this way for a couple of years now and stopped thinking about it. I probably just happen to chat with a lot of programmers who either picked up on what I was doing else I picked it up from them.

I would have used Netflix et al., but unfortunately I couldn't think of 6 or more streaming services. ;)
 
The only implementation I could see worth it would be if all tv was on demand, through internet connection (where apple tv comes in) and the networks included a curated play list and an ad system like youtube's with option to skip after a few seconds.

Each channel could be an app like roku or itv when you open its a landing page for the network/channel and a now playing button to stream live and a search function if you'd rather just skip to the program you want.
 
apolloa said:
Sigh.. TV is not broken, I turn it on and watch, I can choose from several streaming services, free HD sattelite services, subscription sattelite services, terrestrial HD services through an aerial, I have tons of choice of how to watch and tons of different devices to watch it on.

I think its only Americans that think TV is broken, otherwise I have always found Apples view to be finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in the rest of the world. Oh and its trying to find a way to make its standard 30% cut of everything.
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Hmm...I think you're in the minority if you think TV isn't broken.
 
Just give the people some apps on their Apple TV! Purchases and stocks will go up and you will get some time to breath again ;)
 
Cigsm said:
HBO is $20 Per month. Why do you think the networks would suddenly be willing to drop their price 75% AND have less subscribers? It's exactly wht an a la care model doesn't work. It would be way more expensive.
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The big guys would do alright in either model, it's the less popular channels that get bundled that would be left out in the cold. Unbundle them and many would not survive since they would have to survive on their real subscriber base and not the bundled base.
 
Rogifan said:
Hmm...I think you're in the minority if you think TV isn't broken.
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I'm in that minority as well. I watch 15-20 channels on a regular basis and a handful of others periodically. Add another 10-15 for my wife and approximately 10-15 for my kids and we're talking 35-50 channels. A-la-carte wouldn't save me a dime. It would actually cost me a ton more. Additionally, if a-la-carte was to become the accepted model, we would end up with no more than 30 channels with the highest viewership. They wouldn't be cheap either because the studios would have to make up for all the missed ad dollars spread over the multitude of channels we have now.

For all of us that love our personal shows, we'd better hope those shows are on popular networks; otherwise bye-bye. Bundling makes those networks possible. Everyone seems to want something different but no one has come up with a viable alternative... that makes logical sense. A-la-carte is not it.
 
Rogifan said:
Hmm...I think you're in the minority if you think TV isn't broken.
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Check out the Apple TV news threads, they are always full of Americans complaining about the stranglehold held by the cable companies.

The main gripe coming from UK members is about the lack of an iPlayer app on Apple TV. :D
 
This is one area of Apple's work that keeps me interested. I'm looking forward to the day that they can revolutionize TV. I certainly do not like the traditional model that's been around forever.
 
I can already watch most networks on my iOS based phone or tablet.
What exactly is complicated about hitting 'compile' for an AppleTV build?
Amazon, Roku, Netflix, and Google don't seem to think its very 'complicated'.
 
MacRumors said:
Despite Steve Jobs biographer Walter Isaacson speculating that Iovine could be key in any potential TV deals, Iovine told Swisher and Mossberg that he was "not going anywhere near TV".
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Well color ME shocked. (sarcasm). As I've said before - Walter Isaacson doesn't have any more insight or knowledge of what Apple is going to do now than anyone of the forum posters here who would like to speculate.
 
Hypocrites

The same people who bang their little Leftist fists over 'income equality' ("Yeah!!! Yeah!!!...income equality for all...YEAH!!!") are the same ones who whine and moan about the high cost of cable. Everyone wants their equality in that pie, too. The networks want their 'equality.' The cable companies want their 'equality.' The actors and actresses want their 'equality.' So the people who champion 'income equality' should...if they weren't hypocritical...cheer the high cost of TV service because their dollars would be helping to fund 'equality.'
 
OllyW said:
Check out the Apple TV news threads, they are always full of Americans complaining about the stranglehold held by the cable companies.

The main gripe coming from UK members is about the lack of an iPlayer app on Apple TV. :D
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Yep, if Apple just launched the flipping ATV app store it would revolutionise TV in the rest of the world.

In the UK I can watch live and/or catch up TV from all the major broadcasters on my iPhone through BBC iPlayer, the ITV player, Sky, 4oD, Demand 5 etc. However with the exception of Sky News NONE of this is available as channels through ATV.

Sadly, in this case the rest of the world has to wait for the US.
 
'Complicated' means that an Apple television is nowhere in the near future. It's understandable as content is not easily obtainable Even for Apple with all it's money
An Apple television is years away if ever.
 
ChrisNH said:
The same people who bang their little Leftist fists over 'income equality' ("Yeah!!! Yeah!!!...income equality for all...YEAH!!!") are the same ones who whine and moan about the high cost of cable. Everyone wants their equality in that pie, too. The networks want their 'equality.' The cable companies want their 'equality.' The actors and actresses want their 'equality.' So the people who champion 'income equality' should...if they weren't hypocritical...cheer the high cost of TV service because their dollars would be helping to fund 'equality.'
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*backs away slowly*
 
Dunk the Lunk said:
Yep, if Apple just launched the flipping ATV app store it would revolutionise TV in the rest of the world.

In the UK I can watch live and/or catch up TV from all the major broadcasters on my iPhone through BBC iPlayer, the ITV player, Sky, 4oD, Demand 5 etc. However with the exception of Sky News NONE of this is available as channels through ATV.

Sadly, in this case the rest of the world has to wait for the US.
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Evolution. Not Revolution.

Other companies - like Roku already have this model.
 
chrisbru said:
I don't know what writing rules you subscribe to, but where I'm from (Bluebook, legal writing), et al. is used anytime there are more than two.
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I was making a reference to APA style (American Psychological Association) which is used for formal writing in more fields than just psych* (probably because it's easier and not as picky). More specifically I was referencing in-text citations which, instead of using something logical and clean (like numerals in superscript) the APA requires all authors' names written in parentheses within the text (Herdez, Morris, Johnson, 2001). However if there are 6 or more authors (or for subsequent citations of 3 or more), you just use et al. (Herdez, et al., 2001).

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ChrisNH said:
The same people who bang their little Leftist fists over 'income equality' ("Yeah!!! Yeah!!!...income equality for all...YEAH!!!") are the same ones who whine and moan about the high cost of cable. Everyone wants their equality in that pie, too. The networks want their 'equality.' The cable companies want their 'equality.' The actors and actresses want their 'equality.' So the people who champion 'income equality' should...if they weren't hypocritical...cheer the high cost of TV service because their dollars would be helping to fund 'equality.'
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I like pie*. I usually eat it with my right hand but sometimes I switch it up if I'm feeling dangerous.

Spoiler: I am not, in fact, usually feeling particularly dangerous.

*I also like Pie, but don't tell anyone I said that.
 
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