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Thanks for the comment, what would you recommend for my untrained unprofessional ears that just like good rich sound quality from my imac?
The A5's or speakers like the m-audio bx5a deluxe?

I am very happy with my A5s, but since I don't own the BX5a, I can't offer any sort of reasonable comparison. Just keep in mind that specs alone do not a good speaker make. Many factors play a role in sound quality including speaker placement, the characteristics of your listening room, and the characteristics of your own ears. Your best bet is to buy from a reseller who will allow you to return any speaker you're not happy with.

Which device would you recommend to place between my imac and speakers to improve the quality and connect my headphone at the same time, is the creative xmod any good, other suggestion?

Again, I have no experience with the products you mention. I'm using the analog out (headphone jack) of my iMac and think the sound quality is quite acceptable.
 
thanks! the one thing: 'quite acceptable' sounds like not getting the capable quality out of the A5's at all, what do you mean with it you hear kind of distortion or noise? Do you think it is worth it putting something between it?
And what would be good placing on a desk?
Has anybody got any suggestions for such a usb device?
 
I used the FireWire Solo myself, and it's great. You are not going to find a cheaper interface that does what it does. The iMac simply is not made to send audio to external speakers. It is intended to be an all-in-one device. If you want that ability, you are going to pay dearly for it. The Mac Pro is the only Mac with a proper line out. Even the Mac Mini doesn't have one.

What device are you talking about when you say you "don't like it"? The Lexicon Alpha?

If you're set on getting speakers that look good, then I can't help you. That's shallow and a stupid thing to look for first. Get the speakers that sound the best for the lowest price.
 
I used the FireWire Solo myself, and it's great. You are not going to find a cheaper interface that does what it does. The iMac simply is not made to send audio to external speakers. It is intended to be an all-in-one device. If you want that ability, you are going to pay dearly for it. The Mac Pro is the only Mac with a proper line out. Even the Mac Mini doesn't have one.

What device are you talking about when you say you "don't like it"? The Lexicon Alpha?

If you're set on getting speakers that look good, then I can't help you. That's shallow and a stupid thing to look for first. Get the speakers that sound the best for the lowest price.

There I was talking about the Imic, but to me the creative xmod seem like a pretty affordable usb device that does what you say but I may be wrong?
 
There I was talking about the Imic, but to me the creative xmod seem like a pretty affordable usb device that does what you say but I may be wrong?
No, you're totally right. And it has a volume control on it! Very cool. It's more money, but for that convenience, it may be worth it.

Wait a second...I'm investigating it further. Let me get back to you.
 
thanks! the one thing: 'quite acceptable' sounds like not getting the capable quality out of the A5's at all, what do you mean with it you hear kind of distortion or noise? Do you think it is worth it putting something between it?
And what would be good placing on a desk?
Has anybody got any suggestions for such a usb device?

By "quite acceptable" I mean it serves my purposes. If I was doing professional mixing/recording or critical listening, I'd probably want a cleaner signal driving my speakers. Then again, I'd also want a more acoustically neutral room.

But in the end, my A5s are just there so I can rock-out in my office. They sound great connected directly to my iMac and iPod with a good ol' 1/8" plug. Detail and imaging are very good, and I can't say I've had any problem with distortion or noise. It's just no fuss, no muss. :)

As for placement, I do recommend getting the A5 tweets at or near ear level if you're going to use them in a near-field situation (i.e. on a desk). The sweet spot is somewhat narrow when you're up close. Across the room, the A5s are more forgiving with regards to placement. My only other suggestion is keep them around 1' from the rear wall and give them plenty of break-in time. Mid-bass is a little weak out of the box but opens up nicely after 30-40 hours of use.
 
No, you're totally right. And it has a volume control on it! Very cool. It's more money, but for that convenience, it may be worth it.

Wait a second...I'm investigating it further. Let me get back to you.

Thanks for that!
 
@AngryMac

I hope this doesn't piss you off because it is not meant to but first you said:'The xmod is overpriced and the iMic should do a better job for less than half the price.' And now you say it is very good though, how come?


'The A5's are Overpriced, consumer-grade garbage.'

Well I just feel like I have to say that this doesn't make a lot of sense of course it is not the best in the world but I definitely don't think it is overprices consumer crap since very very many reviewers state that value/money is 10 out of 10. Also, I can't find any other speakers that get such amazing reviews also by audiophile sites who compare them to 1000 dollar speakers and say they are at least as good. I think those audio fanatics don't talk crap so the A5's must be pretty good I would say?
 
...You don't need FireWire; the iMic will do. However, if you want to step up a bit, you could get one of these, but I doubt you'll hear a difference:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Transit/...

For strictly sound output, the Transit is total junk!

I got suckered into buying one so that I could go digital out to an external DAC. The drivers are pathetic, and it taxed my CPU like you wouldn't believe. There was also static every time the hard drive did something (read or write). I've also read reviews by others who have had the same problems (too bad I didn't find them until too late). The Airport Extreme does a much better job, without any of these problems.

...I need to connect my headphone and speakers at the same time, what would you recommend, Creative xmod, a external Usb card(please recommend one) or just a splitter cable (does the sound quality decrease by a 3.3mm splitter cable?)

Thanks!

Stay away from the Transit. The iMic will probably do what you want, without the Transit's problems, but I haven't used it myself so I can't say for sure.

Haven't tried the Xmod, but based on the description, I'd stay away from it. The iMic looks like it'll do a better job (interfere less with the sound).

There are also some speakers that also have a headphone out. Generally not very good sound quality, but it may be "good enough" for what you want. Choosing good headphones is a whole 'nuther issue :p

Sound quality is highly subjective. What one person finds to be unacceptable may be just fine for someone else. If it sounds good to you, then it is good. You don't need to spend a ton of money for a reference quality sound system, especially if you're listening to 128 bitrate music. In fact, if you're listening to stuff encoded at low bit rates, you don't want a hi-fi system. You'll just start noticing all the imperfections in the encoding.

I've found that a lot of audiophiles forget that it's all about enjoying the music. They get too wrapped up in hyper-analyzing every nuance of sound and ignore the entire musical experience. Contrary to typical audiophile thinking, it's perfectly possible to enjoy music from a "sub-par" sound system. People do it every day, and there's nothing wrong with it.

The reality is, you're not going to find "good" (in terms of hi-fi) computer speakers. They just don't exist. However, there are a few that sound quite a lot better than most (I've heard good things about Swann speakers).

A lot of people also recommend Klipsch, but personally, I don't like them, because their speakers tend to over-emphasize lows and highs. Booming (as in the opposite of tight) bass and piercing, thin highs, with a non-existent mid-range. Probably works great for home theater though.
 
You said that it was stupid to mind the looks but my desk is in the middle of my room so I think it should look good next to my beautiful Imac.
The only speakers I like the looks of are http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/BX5aDeluxe--Main

But the few reviews they have state that there is a lack of bass and I like some bass so these wouldn't fit my needs, what now?
 
I think you are missing an absolutely crucial component of information. The iMac does NOT have analog line out for audio. It doesn't matter what speakers you get; if they don't have a TOSLink jack for input, it's going to sound like trash.

You'll need a USB or FireWire audio interface to get a line out signal. Here is the cheapest one:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/iMic/

And these are only $200 and better:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/M1Active520/

The A5's aren't even active monitors in the important sense. The left speaker powers the right one, but the crossover is obviously passive. Overpriced, consumer-grade garbage.

Nonsense, the A5s will be driven from the iMac's audio output just as well as any other computer. Obviously if you want better sound, then it's worth looking at getting a Duet or something similar.

And it is true, they aren't technically active, more like passive speakers with an amp bolted to them.

Nothing wrong with that though. While active speakers are much smarter than passive speakers, you can still get a fantastic sound...
 
Nonsense, the A5s will be driven from the iMac's audio output just as well as any other computer. Obviously if you want better sound, then it's worth looking at getting a Duet or something similar.

And it is true, they aren't technically active, more like passive speakers with an amp bolted to them.

Nothing wrong with that though. While active speakers are much smarter than passive speakers, you can still get a fantastic sound...

What exactly do you mean with 'smarter'?
 
You said that it was stupid to mind the looks but my desk is in the middle of my room so I think it should look good next to my beautiful Imac...

There's nothing wrong with wanting speakers (or computers) to look nice. I sure as heck don't want to stare at some ugly-@ss POS all day long ;)

If you like the looks of the A5, go ahead and get it. Enjoy them for a while, then report back on how you like them.

Then, we can start on getting you set up with proper headphones... j/k :D
 
I have proper headphones I would say I just bought the AKG 530Ltd(Black) a few weeks a go very good sound very natural, studio like I would say, not a lot of bass though. And it looks amazing
 
What exactly do you mean with 'smarter'?

Active technology just makes so much more sense than passive technology. It's more efficient, reduces distortion, allows the response of the speaker to be flattened off and can also increase the extension, allows the speaker to play louder and retain control at higher volumes, allows speakers to be matched better and can protect the speakers and amplifiers from damage when played at high volumes.

The list is basically endless.

Passive technology still works though, and has done for many years. I'm laid down in bed with my laptop listening to a pair of passive B&W speakers right now, and it sounds fantastic...
 
I know, but the A5's are 'half-active' or something right, can you maybe clarify this and tell if this is a good or a bad thing. thanks
 
I have proper headphones I would say I just bought the AKG 530Ltd(Black) a few weeks a go very good sound very natural, studio like I would say, not a lot of bass though. And it looks amazing

Haven't listened to those, but the reviews say they're are decent. I'm pretty happy with my Sennheiser HD580 (it sounds a great, now that I have a good headphone amp), but I'm tempted to try the AKG 701. Grados sounds nice too, but I find them to be very uncomfortable.

Whatever you end up with, remember that in the end, it's all about enjoying the music, not the equipment.
 
Haven't listened to those, but the reviews say they're are decent. I'm pretty happy with my Sennheiser HD580 (it sounds a great, now that I have a good headphone amp), but I'm tempted to try the AKG 701. Grados sounds nice too, but I find them to be very uncomfortable.

Whatever you end up with, remember that in the end, it's all about enjoying the music, not the equipment.

true but you can enjoy it more if you can listen do it decently so you hear more of the details of it and yeah the 701 are king of the hill of course. I think Akg is really the number 1 also have sennheiser but they don't have the pro music feeling if you understand what I mean. I liked the 701 and the 530ltd's other looked not nice enough for me but the 701á were too expensive for my budget so I went with the 530Ltd, very happy with them although they of course can't compare to the 701s
 
I have proper headphones I would say I just bought the AKG 530Ltd(Black) a few weeks a go very good sound very natural, studio like I would say, not a lot of bass though. And it looks amazing

Be VERY careful about mixing on headphones. It's very easy to chase the faders up and up until your listening to a high-frequency saturated, over compressed mix at very loud levels for a long time - that's a recipe for tinnitus. The ear quickly becomes fatigued and you will not hear the levels as well so you keep boosting!

It takes a heck of a lot of discipline to compose and mix at low levels on headphones - and it's all too easy to accidentally start a track with the levels set too high resulting in a sharp sonic punch to your ears!

For the record I use a pair of Event TR8's and an Mbox with the Mac for final mastering, and it works very nicely - though for you TR6's would be better for close near-field work. My speakers are in a large room 4 meters from my desk because they have 8 inch cones and mastering requires you to sit farther away from the speakers - like a listener might. A crappy cheap pair sits close by for composing! The reality being that any pair of crappy PC speakers (preferably without a sub) from the mini-jack will do for preliminary mixing and composing IF you know how your mixes/compositions compare in sound to a professionally mixed & mastered commercial track on the same speakers. That A/B process of knowing your speakers is, in reality, the best thing you will ever to do to make better mixes. A lot of big name producers work this way - so don't think better speakers automatically means better mixes.

Took me years of farting about chasing the illusion of 'sonic perfection' to acquire this knowledge!
 
I don't know what makes you think I am into mixing. I am not at all to be very clear. I am only into enjoying my music and be happy with the sound of it. btw this forum was meant for my speaker advice not headphones;)

I know, but the A5's are 'half-active' or something right, can you maybe clarify this and tell if this is a good or a bad thing. thanks

This question would be nice to have answered by anyone(with experience preferably):) thanks
 
I know, but the A5's are 'half-active' or something right, can you maybe clarify this and tell if this is a good or a bad thing. thanks

It's not a 'bad' thing, but speakers being active is definitely a good thing.

They aren't 'half active', simply passive...
 
But they are described as active speakers and have an amp build in so what you're saying can't be true, they're not passive.
'Audioengine 5 Premium Powered Bookshelf Speaker System' as on their website, and all the things you listed before that an active speaker system doe, it does according to all the pro audio review websites and they call them active speakers as well, quite obvious with an amp build in, the only difference is that it isn't balanced I would say?

What good active speakers would you suggest that look as good as the A5's?
searching sth like these:
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HR824mk2/

but then 5'' woofers otherwise it's to big for my desk and a little cheaper
 
Which are better?:
http://www.alesis.com/m1active520
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/closeup/BX5aDeluxe--Main

or
http://audioengineusa.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=77&osCsid=1bb0051299891f691bf8220a64b69518

Who has experience with these, which have the best bass?
Which are the best speakers please say why and give other suggestion which have the good looks as well. thanks!

p.s. Isn't it true that monitors like the m-audio bx5a's are great for music monitoring for mixing and creating music. But they sound somewhat flat and 'undynamical' (boring) for just listening to music as a consumer who likes nice sounding speakers for his music collection? Isn't that why they are called monitor speakers?
 
I don't know what makes you think I am into mixing. I am not at all to be very clear. I am only into enjoying my music and be happy with the sound of it. btw this forum was meant for my speaker advice not headphones;)

Sorry my mistake..I just assumed since you were looking at studio monitors you were going to be doing some mixing.

In this case I would say you may find studio monitors will not produce a warm friendly sound - I can only imagine budget monitors to have this same sonic character as well as being of poorer sonic quality.

I think someone has already answered this for you but your asking again - so basically Studio monitors have a very clinical sound which a lot of people find fatiguing to listen to for pleasure.

Have you not considered hi-fi separates instead ? A nice quality high end audio amplifier and a matched good pair of hi-fi speakers will likely give you a much more enjoyable and pleasurable sound.

You seem to think studio monitors are what you want when your not going to be mixing on them - Can I ask why ?
 
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