Editing in FCPX takes too long.

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  1. waloshin, Feb 26, 2016
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    waloshin macrumors 68040

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    I am editing a VHS tape that I converted to .Mov. The problem is after balancing colour and enhancing audio it takes around an hour to share to either DVD or master file. That is unacceptable. Is there any other programs I could use that would be quicker? I transfer VHS to DVD to make extra money, but it's not feasible if the rendering takes all day for one VHS.

    Edit: Also what is the fastest way to export from compressor as a master file?
     
  2. coldsweat macrumors 6502

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    Have you tried exporting without any filters? That'll tell you if its an issue with the codec used & fcp or with one of your filters!
     
  3. hwojtek macrumors 6502a

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    I kinda not follow this - so is it one day or one hour?
    It all depends on what your workflow and needs are. If you were just converting from VHS to DVD, you'd be OK with Toast Titanium. But you apply filters, edit etc, so obviously you are going to have to use something that taxes your computer much more. Which brings me to your signature - I am afraid a 2-core Mini is not a weapon of choice for your tasks.
     
  4. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    The only problem I have without editing is that at the beginning of the VHS it always says play/ auto. Near the end I usually have a blue screen for awhile so all I really need to do is cut of the beginning and end. Is there any software that can do this? And I believe I have a quad core mini as I have the i7 2.3ghz from 2012.
     
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    Oh, OK I thought it's the i5. Well, I still think it's a bit misaligned to your task (FCP or Premiere would make much better use of a high-end graphics card than CPU cores). Anyway - I would use something that
    a) allows for very quick trimming and basic sound boosting
    b) allows for batch compressing to a DVD-ready format

    I don't know anything that would take a bunch of files and spit .iso DVD-Video images out of them in an uncotrolled process, but I am pretty sure there exists something like that. In terms of a) - if it's only basic trim + sound boost, even the MPEG Streamclip will do. Extremely easy: set "in" marker, press I, set "out" marker, press O, cmd+T for trim, cmd+S to save (and there is some sound boost option), done.
     
  6. waloshin, Feb 27, 2016
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    Thank you I will look into MPEG streamclip tonight. I.can use toast to burn the file image.

    Thank you very much I was able to trim the beginning and end and save the file. The time was only about 3 minutes versus over an hour.
     
  7. hwojtek macrumors 6502a

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    Wow, now that's an improvement of the process, cutting the time by 95%. Excellent! :)
     
  8. orph macrumors 6502a

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    you can always just buy quick time 7 if you just need to cut start/end.
     
  9. sevoneone macrumors 6502

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    Even the QuickTime X player will let you trim the head and tail of clips.

    I'm glad you found a workable solution, I am just curious of your steps you used to digitize your VHS footage and into what codecs, as the 2012 mini, even with its HD4000 graphics, should have been able to handle the tasks you gave it in FCPX realatively easily.
     
  10. orph macrumors 6502a

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    not meany details are given so id gess

    VHS -> usb AV to digital converter -> saves as h264/mp3? -> fcpx grade/edit -> export via compressor to master file or dvd (as dvd video aka mpeg 2 or as data?)

    i gess this is all done on a single internal drive?

    is the video being resized or anything?

    one thing you never mentioned was how long the videos are, if it's a 3 min video then it's slow if it's 8 hours of video it's fast


    @sevoneone dose quicktime x let you cut and past without rein-coding the file? loved that in quicktime 7 even on a super slow computer your only limited by the speed of you HD for jobs like that
     
  11. waloshin thread starter macrumors 68040

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    SAVED AS .MOV AND PROBABLY .H264 and usually saved as data (raw file). Saved to Single Western Digital Red 2 TB (external USB 3.0). Not resized. Videos are 2 to 3 hours long.
     
  12. orph macrumors 6502a

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    im kind of just curious, sounds like hwojtek fixed your problem :D
    what resolution is it when saved from vhs? wiki says 333×480 for ntsc & 335×576 pal (interlaced 50i/60i)
    any way if you have a 3 hour video that exports in 1 hour thats not bad, when you say saved as a raw file id gess you mean as a h264 video with mp3/acc audio.

    sounds fine export over night if you want,
     
  13. joema2 macrumors 65816

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    Yes the 2012 mini has a 3720QM Ivy Bridge CPU with Quick Sync. FCPX can use Quick Sync to encode H264 at very high speed. However his videos were 2 to 3 hr long, which is a lot.

    If editing and re-encoding is necessary, a fast way is doing it directly from FCPX using these settings:

    File>Share>Master File>Settings:
    Format: Computer
    Video codec: H.264 Faster Encode
    Resolution: 1280x720 or 1920x1080

    However no matter how fast the encode/export is, it's slower than trimming the head and tail off a file with a tool which does not re-encode. This can be a tricky area with a "Long GOP" codec like H.264. I've see several of these tools cause glitches in the file, so it's wise to test the results via several different playback methods.

    Burning a video DVD is even more complex since by definition it must be MPEG-2. So in this case you generally would not want to encode twice, once to H264 then again to MPEG-2 during DVD authoring. It would probably be better to encode to MPEG-2, then hand off to the DVD authoring program, or simply pick DVD as output and let the authoring tool handle the conversion.

    FCPX can create a simple "direct play" DVD and Compressor can create a basic DVD with simple titles but anything more complex would require an authoring program.
     
  14. orph macrumors 6502a

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    i think he's saving to dvd as h264/acc or mp3 .mov/mp4 id gess so no mpeg 2 needed

    and yep if it's long videos and your working at hi-rez it's life, i do long exports over night or during brakes
     
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    Premiere is not cheap to use if your not using it professionally, i dont think he relay needs it for capturing VHS films on the side.
    premiere elements is a cheaper option but not shore how it comperes to FCPX in features, davinci resolve is worth a look (it's free) but overkill relay for the use.
    im looking in to moving to FCPX for work, it's fast and well supported + relay cheap.
     

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