Editing metadata in iTunes is pointless: iTunes overwrites it anyway

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by hagar, Jul 13, 2015.

  1. hagar macrumors 6502a

    Jan 19, 2008

    After upgrading to Apple Music I noticed (like so many others), that a lot of metadata and artwork of my own music was wrong/missing. I started fixing it in iTunes. And then the magic happens again: iTunes overwrites it back with the old metadata from the cloud??? What gives? Who's music is it? Mine or Apple's!@!@F!#@

    So, is there a workaround or should I wait for iTunes 13?
  2. jhfenton macrumors 6502a


    Dec 11, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Try 12.2.1 just released. It's supposed to fix some library issues, including the Matched >> Apple Music transformation bug. (That bug hit exactly 5 Matched songs in my library out of thousands. Why those 5? I have no idea. The metadata on those songs was also corrupted in the same way: The track # became the max track # and the disc # become the "of disc" #.)
  3. flur macrumors 68020


    Nov 12, 2012
    But *DOES* it actually fix it? Is there anyone actually willing to try it out? *touches finger to nose*
  4. hagar thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Jan 19, 2008
    I can confirm this issue is still in the new iTunes version
    Also, the heart indicating loved songs does not stick either.

    It's weird: it goes fine for a while and changes are saved and even propagate to other devices. But then all of sudden, iTunes goes f*ck you and immediately reverts back all changes you make.

    Makes me think it's a server issue. As usual. And definitely not an issue of corrupted songs: the songs that would not save this afternoon, now are all properly updated.
  5. blackboxxx macrumors regular

    Sep 10, 2008
    I have a similar issue with playlists.
    Suppose I have a playlist that I sync to iPhone (I don't subscribe to Apple Music or iTunes Match).
    If I add a new song to that playlist on a Mac, the next time I sync the playlist is replaced with iPhone version — without the new song at the end.
    The playlist wasn't modified on the iPhone in any way, I didn't even open Music app between syncs.
    The change appears to stick only if I add the song again and sync immediately afterwards.

    So if Apple still can't figure out local syncing, is it any surprise that there are even more problems with the cloud?
  6. jhfenton macrumors 6502a


    Dec 11, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    It fixed all of the problems I was having. It turned all 5 songs back to "Matched." And an album I was having trouble with last week matching as "Apple Music" was added to my library just fine.
  7. crizzly macrumors newbie


    Mar 11, 2014
  8. John6Plus macrumors 6502


    Sep 19, 2014
    Holland, MI
    Against my better judgement, I thought I'd take iCloud Music Library for a test drive today.

    Shoulda listened to my better judgement.

    Luckily I didn't apply it to my main iTunes Library location. I first enabled iCML on my iPhone, then opened an empty library on my MacBook, and watched delightedly as it populated with the music that's currently on my phone!

    Then I saw the artwork. Well, at least I was warned, and I saw this with Match years ago.
    Then I saw the sorting. Ugh. Metadata ignored. Yay. Again I saw this with Match years ago.
    Then I tried to mess with playlists. Cannot create a playlist that references another smart playlist! Hey, I remember that limitation from Match's launch. Sniff, made me nostalgic.
    Then I disabled iCML as fast as I could find the option. Another old memory from my Match days (or day).

    I assume play counts and last played stats are still borked.
    And that it downloads massive amounts of data at random times for no good damned reason.

    Good to know I never needed to waste more time on Match to see if they fixed that boondoggle, since they obviously haven't.

    It's a shame, because I do like the actual service of Apple Music - protip: you do not need to enable iCML to use Apple Music - I just wanted some of the other niceties, at least during the trial. Now I just need to remove the music from my phone and resync it with my main library since I never turned it on there and there's no way what I did on separate devices could have affected that, right? RIGHT?

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