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Edward Snowden Designed an iPhone Case to Guard Against Radio Snitching

If you're that paranoid then turn the phone off and don't carry it with you. It'll save you a lot more than this case will cost.

In reality, the government doesn't care about you. Far too many people believe they're being watched when in reality they're in no way of interest.
 
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How's life in Russia, Edwardo?
KGB sez zdravstvuyte and thanks for all the intel.
Sorry about the Russian Olympic team.
 
iapplelove said:
Eventually one day I can see myself going back to no phone at all. I know it's a thought most can't comprehend. But I'm promising myself, little by little that I don't need a smart phone anymore.
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I've been thinking the same, but I really love the convenience of a great camera with me all the times, all the other features are extra.
 
It's funny reading people posting that they don't care that the government watches them, or if you need to have your phone in airplane mode you shouldn't have a phone anyway. That's not the point. The user should have the ability to switch of the data transmission of their device. Seems like a basic premise. Why a phone still transmits while in airplane mode is ridiculous.

You don't trust Snowden, but if the government was open and Apple didn't sneak in transmission while in airplane mode, there wouldn't be an Edward Snowden.
 
Where can I buy this?


iapplelove said:
Eventually one day I can see myself going back to no phone at all. I know it's a thought most can't comprehend. But I'm promising myself, little by little that I don't need a smart phone anymore.
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Same. My life is pretty basic now yet at the same time complicated. The only apps I use are ones not published by big corporations, social networking is null outside of forums like this. I run my own NAS @ Home and VPS out of London and everything is encrypted with SSL certs. All of my traffic goes through a VPN I run from all of my devices and almost all services I use (email, RSS, news, backups, dropbox clone, messaging, calendars, contacts) are self-hosted. Everything has 2-step authentication and the only company really with any of my personal data is apple.


BenTrovato said:
That's not the point. The user should have the ability to switch of the data transmission of their device. Seems like a basic premise. Why a phone still transmits while in airplane mode is ridiculous.
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Agreed, I was under the impression that Airplane mode truly disabled all radio / communication hardware in the phone. I haven't tested it but if Apple Pay works in airplane mode, that already to me is a failure. The phone should truly be completely disconnected and undetectable by anything but a device that can simply pickup an electronic device in your pocket. No data to & from the device should be possible in airplane mode.

Here's Apple's Kbase on the subject:


When Airplane Mode is on, you'll see
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in the status bar of your screen or on your watch face. In Airplane Mode, these wireless features are turned off:

  • Cellular (voice and data)
  • Wi-Fi
  • Bluetooth
If you have a device with iOS 8.2 or earlier, Airplane Mode will also turn off GPS.​
 
He's not a whistleblower, he's a traitor who gave sensitive information to foreign nations and there's little doubt terrorists will have benefited somewhere somehow as well. Clinton is 100% right that it was odd he would leave the country (and shore more with other countries than with fellow Americans, if he truly gave a **** about America) as opposed to using whistleblower protections...

He's a traitor that is playing you, Tim Cook, and others as pure chumps. At least Cook can get free advertising and rich from his whining his double standards on the issue, though.
 
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
In reality, the government doesn't care about you. Far too many people believe they're being watched when in reality they're in no way of interest.
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I'd say most people aren't being focused on, but all internet and communications in the USA are being collected due to legal shenanigans in what is considered "domestic" and "foreign". Basically they've redefined what the terms mean by designating each side of rooms at the amplifier junctures for undersea cables as either foreign or domestic.

Head over to Cryptome.org if you want to read up on it, I think the explanation was in the "offsite" section back in May.
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thermodynamic said:
He's not a whistleblower, he's a traitor who gave sensitive information to foreign nations and there's little doubt terrorists will have benefited somewhere somehow as well.
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Source?

I had no idea that journalistic enterprises were foreign nations now....

:rolleyes:
 
There must be a built in software that shows you what is gong on with your device, what is going out and what is going in. The only way to trust computers
 
cableguy84 said:
What is the point. If you are walking around with your phone in airplane mode, you might as well not carry a phone
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I can still listen to (downloaded) music, podcasts, audiobooks. I can still read downloaded content (books, newspapers). I can still play games. I can still watch movies. I can still use maps and navigation. But I guess these are extremely niche activities and almost everybody would have no use for an airplaned phone.
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iapplelove said:
Eventually one day I can see myself going back to no phone at all. I know it's a thought most can't comprehend. But I'm promising myself, little by little that I don't need a smart phone anymore.
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Can you elaborate some of these 'little by little' steps?
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NT1440 said:
I had no idea that journalistic enterprises were foreign nations now....
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Didn't you know that if you weren't with us, you were against us?
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adamjackson said:
Agreed, I was under the impression that Airplane mode truly disabled all radio / communication hardware in the phone. I haven't tested it but if Apple Pay works in airplane mode, that already to me is a failure. The phone should truly be completely disconnected and undetectable by anything but a device that can simply pickup an electronic device in your pocket. No data to & from the device should be possible in airplane mode.

Here's Apple's Kbase on the subject:


When Airplane Mode is on, you'll see
ios9-airplane-mode-icon.png
in the status bar of your screen or on your watch face. In Airplane Mode, these wireless features are turned off:

  • Cellular (voice and data)
  • Wi-Fi
  • Bluetooth
If you have a device with iOS 8.2 or earlier, Airplane Mode will also turn off GPS.​
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If NFC is still working, Apple Pay might still work.
 
I keep playing this in my head every time these articles come out :)

"You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people, people like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant." They wouldn't act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You'll never find us, but victim or perpetrator, if your number's up... we'll find [you]." - Harold Finch (Person of Interest)
 
blackcrayon said:
I have no idea why you're yelling at "TIM!", when the article specifically states that it would likely be malware or a hacked device that could prevent the switch from working properly. It doesn't say that Airplane Mode on a properly working device will not turn the wireless radios off. It simply says as a user, there is no way to know for *sure* if what the phone says is true so having an external monitor is the only foolproof way.

Leaving GPS on in Airplane Mode is a recent change and was done as a feature to help preserve battery life while you're simply trying to find your way somewhere. There's a second switch for Location Services if you want that turned off, which is probably for the better as a passive GPS receiver is in a different category than bluetooth, cellular, and wifi which transmit.
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What? How does this make any sense?

Having any radio on diminishes battery life compared to no radios on. Also, why would you be wanting to find a way somewhere after you set your phone to Airplane Mode?

There's no logical justification as to why GPS is active in Airplane Mode.

If you feel so strongly about your point, please cite a source. I'm genuinely curious.
 
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lowendlinux said:
People screaming Tim are right if I hit airplane mode it needs to transmitting and receiving need to stop even for the GPS
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vertsix said:
There's no logical justification as to why GPS is active in Airplane Mode.
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The whole point of Airplane Mode is to keep signals transmitted by your phone from interfering with an airplane. GPS only listens, it doesn't transmit. So the switch is doing what it ought to do.
 
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blackcrayon said:
I have no idea why you're yelling at "TIM!", when the article specifically states that it would likely be malware or a hacked device that could prevent the switch from working properly. It doesn't say that Airplane Mode on a properly working device will not turn the wireless radios off. It simply says as a user, there is no way to know for *sure* if what the phone says is true so having an external monitor is the only foolproof way.

Leaving GPS on in Airplane Mode is a recent change and was done as a feature to help preserve battery life while you're simply trying to find your way somewhere. There's a second switch for Location Services if you want that turned off, which is probably for the better as a passive GPS receiver is in a different category than bluetooth, cellular, and wifi which transmit.
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Then read the post again.
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OldSchoolMacGuy said:
If you're that paranoid then turn the phone off and don't carry it with you. It'll save you a lot more than this case will cost.

In reality, the government doesn't care about you. Far too many people believe they're being watched when in reality they're in no way of interest.
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Those people that are in fact being watched may disagree with you.
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NT1440 said:
....Airplane mode on cell phones can be spoofed to still allow communications. If the device is NOT being spoofed, Airplane mode works exactly how you think it does.
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No it doesn’t. Don’t assume. Ass/you/me and all that.
 
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GPS, in and of itself, is passive - so leaving that on shouldn't be broadcasting anything.

However the arguments regarding the switches all being "soft" switches are valid. It's the same reason some people tape over their laptop's camera - you can't rely on the indicator light to tell you whether the camera is active because it's no longer hard wired into the camera circuit.
 
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