I'd really like an efficient way of storing my photos that both backs them up, and leaves them easily locatable, and usable. Initially, I would just copy them to different folders, and had all the folders properly labeled. Seemed easy enough, worked ok, but ended up with lots, and lots of folders. Then, I said, what the heck, aperture ( v.1 at that point) sounds great, but it was slow, and I couldn't get used to its features. I ended up with a combo of folders, and the aperture library. Finally upgraded to v2 which was better, but I can't get the system down. I'm dealing with something like ~10,000 raw images +5,000 jpg. The computer is a powermac g5 quad 2.5, 2 500gb drives, with a 1.5 gb mybook setup for time machine. My biggest issue is the the aperture organization works on when I go from camera-->card reader when I'm home, but I get screwed when I download photos on the road to my laptop, and then get boggled reorganizing them on my tower. I hate the folder/project titles too, and "smart" options. Do I just need to suck it up, and learn ap more, or is there really a better option ( lightroom?). The photos all go through extensive post-processing btw. thanks for your suggestions.