Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
hi.

I recently did the newest El Capitan update,

And my Mac wouldn't boot up, it was stuck at the grey loading screen with the br half loaded.

I did the pram reset and not it loading to the loading screen and I can enter my password and load into El Capitan, but now it is very slow and everything would load then just freeze and do nothing.

I did try to reinstall El Capitan and it still does the freezing.

What can I do now?


Thanks
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
Okay... so everything worked fine before and now it is slow with no change other than the El Capitan upgrade?

Sounds like you may have something running that conflicts with El Capitan. Try holding the shift key at startup to boot to safe mode. That will prevent any startup or launch items from running. Does that help? Let me know, then we can figure out how to fix things.
 

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
I installed El Capitan
And it was awesome
Then I did the update for El Capitan and now it's extremely slow and freezes.
What would safe mode do?
What am I suppose to disable?
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
I installed El Capitan
And it was awesome
Then I did the update for El Capitan and now it's extremely slow and freezes.
What would safe mode do?
What am I suppose to disable?
Okay.... I misunderstood. I thought your troubles started with the initial El Capitan install. So El Capitan worked just fine, and things went south when you installed the 10.11.1 update then?

Safe mode stops all launch items and startup items from running to eliminate that as the cause of the problems. Give that a try and tell me if it helps.

But now with your saying it was just the point update that caused problems, it seems less likely to be an app/driver conflict. So you can login to El Capitan and it works, but everything is slow and freezes?
 

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
I can get into El Capitan
But when everything loads, like the menu bar items and I open safari it freezes and I can't do anything I can't click on the apple to force quit safari
I can only move my mouse around.
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
I can get into El Capitan
But when everything loads, like the menu bar items and I open safari it freezes and I can't do anything I can't click on the apple to force quit safari
I can only move my mouse around.
Try the safe mode boot and tell me if that helps.

Also, try holding command-r at boot to get to the recovery screen. From there use Disk Utility to run first aid. Does that report any errors on the disk?
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
What should I expect when I run the diagnostics?
You will get a screen that looks like this showing everything is okay. Or you will get an error message in that same screen if there are problems.
 

Attachments

  • Screen Shot 2015-10-25 at 9.40.44 AM.png
    Screen Shot 2015-10-25 at 9.40.44 AM.png
    100.4 KB · Views: 252

sjinsjca

macrumors 68020
Oct 30, 2008
2,238
555
I can get into safe mode
, but it's very slow also.
I will try and do the recovery and run the diagnostics.

Safe mode will be slow. Expect that. But maybe some of the other misbehaviors will improve and allow you to further diagnose.

If you're backed up, consider a clean install. But do run the Disk Utility full scan from the diagnostics boot partition. You may have disk problems.
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
Yes no freezing in safe mode
Ah... now we are getting somewhere. If it freezes in regular mode but not in safe mode, that means you likely have some sort of app or driver running that is causing a conflict. Safe mode stops any apps or third party utilities etc from running.

So boot back to regular mode then run the utility Etrecheck. That will create a report showing everything running. Post the report here so we can have a look.
 

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
Ah... now we are getting somewhere. If it freezes in regular mode but not in safe mode, that means you likely have some sort of app or driver running that is causing a conflict. Safe mode stops any apps or third party utilities etc from running.

So boot back to regular mode then run the utility Etrecheck. That will create a report showing everything running. Post the report here so we can have a look.

EtreCheck version: 2.6.1 (221)
Report generated 2015-10-25, 8:53 PM
Runtime 7:12
Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.
Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

Hardware Information: (What does this mean?)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
[Click for Technical Specifications]
[Click for User Guide]
MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro5,3
1 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core
4 GB RAM Upgradeable
[Click for upgrade instructions]
BANK 0/DIMM0
2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
BANK 1/DIMM0
2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n
Battery: Health = Check Battery - Cycle count = 311 - SN = W0935B0RJ77YA

Video Information: (What does this mean?)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB
Color LCD 1440 x 900
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT - VRAM: 256 MB

System Software: (What does this mean?)
OS X El Capitan 10.11.1 (15B42) - Time since boot: less than an hour

Disk Information: (What does this mean?)
ST9500420AS disk0 : (500.11 GB) (Rotational)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 499.25 GB (62.18 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB

HGST HTS541515A9E630 disk1 : (1.5 TB) (Rotational)
EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Death Star (disk1s2) /Volumes/Death Star : 1.50 TB (78.33 GB free)

USB Information: (What does this mean?)
Apple Inc. Built-in iSight
Apple Card Reader
Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Gatekeeper: (What does this mean?)
Anywhere

Kernel Extensions: (What does this mean?)
/Applications/Parallels Desktop.app
[not loaded] com.parallels.kext.hidhook (9.0 23350.941886) [Click for support]
[not loaded] com.parallels.kext.hypervisor (9.0 23350.941886) [Click for support]
[not loaded] com.parallels.kext.netbridge (9.0 23350.941886) [Click for support]
[not loaded] com.parallels.kext.usbconnect (9.0 23350.941886) [Click for support]
[not loaded] com.parallels.kext.vnic (9.0 23350.941886) [Click for support]

/Applications/Toast 11 Titanium/Spin Doctor.app
[not loaded] com.hzsystems.terminus.driver (4) [Click for support]

/Applications/Toast 14 Titanium/Toast Audio Assistant.app
[not loaded] com.Cycling74.driver.Soundflower (1.6.7 - SDK 10.7) [Click for support]

/Applications/Transmit.app
[not loaded] com.panic.TransmitDisk.transmitdiskfs (4.0.0 - SDK 10.6) [Click for support]

/Library/Extensions
[loaded] at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (4352 - SDK 10.8) [Click for support]

/System/Library/Extensions
[not loaded] com.dvdfab.kext.fabio (1) [Click for support]
[not loaded] com.roxio.BluRaySupport (1.1.6) [Click for support]

~/Library/Services/ToastIt.service/Contents/MacOS
[not loaded] com.roxio.TDIXController (2.0) [Click for support]

Startup Items: (What does this mean?)
TuxeraNTFSUnmountHelper: Path: /Library/StartupItems/TuxeraNTFSUnmountHelper
Startup items are obsolete in OS X Yosemite

Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
[running] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.bjango.istatmenusagent.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.bjango.istatmenusnotifications.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_desktop.plist [Click for support]

Launch Daemons: (What does this mean?)
[running] at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.bjango.istatmenusdaemon.plist [Click for support]
[running] com.cleverfiles.cfbackd.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Agent.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.teamviewer.teamviewer_service.plist [Click for support]

User Launch Agents: (What does this mean?)
[loaded] ca.madefresh.BodegaAgent.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]
[loaded] com.google.xupdater.plist [Click for support]
[failed] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Scheduler.plist [Click for support] [Click for details]

User Login Items: (What does this mean?)
iTunesHelper Application (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)
Dropbox Application (/Applications/Dropbox.app)
Caffeine Application (/Applications/Caffeine.app)
Stickies Application Hidden (/Applications/Stickies.app)
HazelHelper Application (~/Library/PreferencePanes/Hazel.prefPane/Contents/MacOS/HazelHelper.app)

Other Apps: (What does this mean?)
[running] 2BUA8C4S2C.com.agilebits.onepassword-osx-helper
[loaded] J8RPQ294UB.com.skitch.SkitchHelper
[running] com.etresoft.EtreCheck.14112
[running] com.getdropbox.dropbox.134752
[running] com.lightheadsw.caffeine.51232
[loaded] com.lsreset
[running] com.noodlesoft.HazelHelper.244832
[loaded] com.touchbyte.PhotoSyncHelper
[running] com.touchbyte.mac.PhotoSync.78432

Internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0
FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 19.0.0.226 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
Flash Player: Version: 19.0.0.226 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
AdobePDFViewer: Version: 10.1.1 [Click for support]
Default Browser: Version: 601 - SDK 10.11
SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.3 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]
JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 45 Check version

User internet Plug-ins: (What does this mean?)
Picasa: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

Safari Extensions: (What does this mean?)
SaveFrom.net helper
Reload Button
Pinterest
GMail Counter
Add To Amazon Wish List
Evernote Web Clipper
Facebook Cleaner
DuckDuckGo
FastestTube
1Password
AdBlock
Save to Pocket

3rd Party Preference Panes: (What does this mean?)
Flash Player [Click for support]
Hazel [Click for support]
Java [Click for support]
Perian [Click for support]
Tuxera NTFS [Click for support]

Time Machine: (What does this mean?)
Time Machine not configured!

Top Processes by CPU: (What does this mean?)
19% mdworker(3)
6% WindowServer
4% com.apple.hiservices-xpcservice
2% com.google.xupdater
2% ps

Top Processes by Memory: (What does this mean?)
478 MB kernel_task
98 MB mdworker(3)
66 MB PhotoSync
61 MB Dropbox
61 MB Dock

Virtual Memory Information: (What does this mean?)
21 MB Free RAM
4.23 GB Used RAM (816 MB Cached)
1 MB Swap Used

Diagnostics Information: (What does this mean?)
Oct 25, 2015, 08:41:02 PM Self test - passed
Oct 25, 2015, 12:22:03 AM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/mapspushd_2015-10-25-002203_[redacted].crash
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
Okay... good you got the report run. Like I mentioned the fact that you do not have this problem in safe mode proves it is one of the startup or launch items in this report causing the issue. So now the trick is figuring out which one it is. Unfortunately there is no easy way to do this other than trial and error.

You have a lot of third party utilities running there. I would start by removing Clean my Mac, iStat Menus, Hazel, and Teamviewer. If that does not work just keep going down the report and removing things that are either "loaded" or "running" until you find the culprit.
 

dsemf

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2014
435
110
If I recall correctly, during the beta someone was having trouble with Safari which they fixed by deleting the Safari cache directory in ~/Library/Caches. Apparently the cache had become corrupted which caused their Safari issues.

A guest user or a new user starts with a nearly empty ~/Library structure that only has default content such as plists.


DS
 

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
Okay... good you got the report run. Like I mentioned the fact that you do not have this problem in safe mode proves it is one of the startup or launch items in this report causing the issue. So now the trick is figuring out which one it is. Unfortunately there is no easy way to do this other than trial and error.

You have a lot of third party utilities running there. I would start by removing Clean my Mac, iStat Menus, Hazel, and Teamviewer. If that does not work just keep going down the report and removing things that are either "loaded" or "running" until you find the culprit.

By removing you mean uninstall the app?
 

mrgreeneyes

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Oct 7, 2007
842
51
Gatineau,Canada
If I recall correctly, during the beta someone was having trouble with Safari which they fixed by deleting the Safari cache directory in ~/Library/Caches. Apparently the cache had become corrupted which caused their Safari issues.

A guest user or a new user starts with a nearly empty ~/Library structure that only has default content such as plists.


DS

I'll try that, and see what happens
 

Weaselboy

Moderator
Staff member
Jan 23, 2005
34,412
16,084
California
By removing you mean uninstall the app?
Yes... exactly. Make sure you get rid of the launch items from the Etrecheck list in these folders. That ~ is your users folder.

~/Library/LaunchAgents
/Library/LaunchAgents
/Library/LaunchDaemons
/Library/StartupItems
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.