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Elon Musk Says Apple's Electric Car Project is an 'Open Secret'
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That whole concept of competition driving innovation needs to be re-evaluated. Innovative companies will innovate, today's competition leads to repacking the same products with cheaper components until you're left with absolute garbage in a Wal-Mart.
I can't say I'm smitten with the prospect of an Apple Car.
Presuming it's electric, it will be completely impractical for almost everyone. We simply don't have good enough battery technology, never mind the impossible strain it would put on the grid if electric cars were to somehow become mass market.
I wonder when the electric fad will fade.
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Warming it up?
What's not to like? Good for plants and humans. England could do with warming.
We have no choice anyway. The weather will do what the weather will do. Nothing we do will make the blindest bit of difference.
Presuming it's electric, it will be completely impractical for almost everyone. We simply don't have good enough battery technology, never mind the impossible strain it would put on the grid if electric cars were to somehow become mass market.
I wonder when the electric fad will fade.
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Warming it up?
What's not to like? Good for plants and humans. England could do with warming.
We have no choice anyway. The weather will do what the weather will do. Nothing we do will make the blindest bit of difference.
I think you make a valid point. The thing we are both ignoring is the role the consumer plays. With your wal-mart example, the customer loses track of value and focuses solely on price. Without discerning consumers, entire industries are reduced to the lowest common denominator.
Perhaps rather than focus solely on competition, a race to the bottom in your supposition, there should be not an exclusive focus on collaboration but perhaps a healthy balance between competition and collaboration. Of course some will cry socialist, but as musk says here, whether in earnest or not, he envisions helping other manufacturers.
But what do I know. I'm just a fan boy.
I guess I was referring to oil spills and such as well, not just air pollution. Oil isn't the future. At least it shouldn't be imo.
Edit: I'm not saying electric cars are the future either lol
Probably the dumbest post i've seen in a while. You use an asinine straw man scenario to defend Apple's inarguably high prices.
That seems incredibly short sighted. Many years to come, if I may, seems to me like 20 years, but I'd bet in less than 10 electric most people will see an electric car as a viable financial option.
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You know what Apple's car will cost?
I was being facetious; poking fun at Apple's preference to manufacture in China.
Apple would do better making All cars more technology advanced. Using their skills in various technologies to add to existing manufacturers cars, somewhat like CarPlay. Why build the whole car and go through all that frustration. Make self driving units that either are incorporated into their cars or add on modules to some existing cars. The huge problem Tesla has is the selling and distribution model. The existing car industry has many laws about dealerships etc. Why you see Tesla cars shops in malls as the new cars need special sales, delivery, and support not offered by current manufactures. Will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
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I dunno what it's like in the US, however in the UK it's always raining, you're always stuck in traffic, the roads are ****, parking is a nightmare and basically cars suck. No one likes driving here, it's just something you do to get to point a to b and you cannot go on any long drive because the place is smaller than most states in the US.
Self driving cars cannot come soon enough.
Self driving cars cannot come soon enough.
Sure.
I'm as green as can be when it comes to the environment. Nothing I want more than clean air and the end of pollution. But climate change and being green are two separate things. The first is a political agenda; the second is a valid position.
We should feel blessed if we get warm; more CO2=more plants=moreO2.
It's an ice age that we should be fearful of. Crop failure would lead to mass starvation.
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Too much immigration; too many people.
We need to chuck about 10 million people out of this sceptred isle.
Vast majority of electric vehicles would be charged at night when demand for electricity is typically very low, really wouldn't put any strain on "the grid".
I remember reading about some guy who was super arrogant too........Steve something.......
Tesla's Gigafactory will be online in the foreseeable future. Once online, it will dramatically reduce the cost of battery production. Musk has been successful in everything that he has done.. He has not only been successful, but overwhelmingly so. This is a man who has created a private company that is building reusable rockets for our space program. He is in a different league than most.
Within 3-5 years, once electric vehicles drop down to under 35,000 dollars, who is going to buy a gasoline powered engine vehicle? Tesla is already at the forefront, and the market leader, of current electric vehicles on the road and seems to also be ahead of the curve when it comes to autonomous driving. Hard to believe that anyone still thinks Tesla is going to go belly up.. Their is too much infrastructure that has been developed, from the factories building the vehicles to the Gigafactory which has the potential to dramatically change the production of batteries worldwide.
Within 3-5 years, once electric vehicles drop down to under 35,000 dollars, who is going to buy a gasoline powered engine vehicle? Tesla is already at the forefront, and the market leader, of current electric vehicles on the road and seems to also be ahead of the curve when it comes to autonomous driving. Hard to believe that anyone still thinks Tesla is going to go belly up.. Their is too much infrastructure that has been developed, from the factories building the vehicles to the Gigafactory which has the potential to dramatically change the production of batteries worldwide.
It actually makes a lot of sense for Apple to be building a car. Apple is desperate for another billion-dollar business. The iPad is floundering, and the watch isn't exactly setting the world on fire. We are at the very beginning of a revolution in automotive technology. Between the advent of self driving cars and practical electric vehicles, the automotive industry will be radically different in 15 years from now. It makes all the sense in the world for a technology company like Apple to get in now so that they have a chance of competing in this market when it matures. Obviously, a car is much more complicated than a phone. But with Apple's expertise in battery technology, design, user interface, and sensors, they actually can put together a compelling product, I think.
Apple simply must find a new high-margin product line to fuel their growth. Why not a car?
Apple simply must find a new high-margin product line to fuel their growth. Why not a car?
People who say that an idea will never work in the future because today's technology isn't up to scratch have often been on the wrong side of history.
Also, as most users will presumably recharge their cars at night, it would actually address the problem of under-utilization of energy. Some electric cars offer the ability to start recharging only at the cheapest times so there could be some way of automatically staggering out the charging if it ever became a problem.
I think there are enough people in the world becoming affluent enough to own a vehicle that both oil and electric and co-exist for some time. In fact I think electric cars will save the gas powered auto industry by taking pressure off the rising oil demand in the coming years.
Launching The iCar in these easy to choose models: iCar 1, iCar 1 Plus, iCar Air, iCar Mini Pro.
With the exception of range, why would anyone go back to combustion engine?
Apple isn't on the "ropes" like they were in the 90's. Steve's idea to innovate to save the company worked extraordinarily well. Now with so many companies imitating Apple products, Apple seems complacent with their success to play within the confines of the industries they helped create. Apple will fail when their products become unidentifiable from the vast array of cheap competitors products outside of a pretty exterior design.
My guess would be its more of a financial reason...the stats say that 22% of people trading in hybrids and Ev's are trading them in for suv's....that would indicate that the price of gas is the determining factor.