Email From Tim Cook

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by shastapete, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    No. Sorry, I got throw by intel's clever (*cough* inconsistent) number scheme. I was thinking "60" got you a core count bump along with the 2 core bump on the 5645.

    I suspect they don't really have much expectations at all for the single package model's prospects. That's why there are only two. At least the duals are a bit more viable during the interim. There is nothing close to them on very high RAM and core count workloads in the Mac market. (for those who want to stay inside the walled garden. )

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    Intel didn't do updates the last two tick/tock cycles.

    I suppose it is not impossible, but I don't consider it likely. That is not how server vendors roll. Stability and correctness over the "latest greatest" general market box I/O socket for keyboards and thumb drives.
     
  2. xgman macrumors 601

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    fake.............. or might as well be............
     
  3. xgman macrumors 601

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    Exactly, then they will have no reason to make anything Pro, just like they have planned all along. I'm serious.
     
  4. throAU macrumors 601

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    Rumors of apple killing the pro.

    Macrumors users: "waah we need the pro, we need confirmationt they will exist!"

    Email from tim confirming work on new pro:

    Macrumros users: "waah, i call BS, they're killing the pro!"



    There's no pleasing some people.
     
  5. Peace macrumors P6

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    Apple has had TWO YEARS for a major redo.

    I doubt those emails from fake tim cook.
     
  6. ivoruest macrumors 6502

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    Not true.

    The death of the Mac Pro is coming.
     
  7. goMac macrumors 603

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    This.

    Apple deserves all the crap they get for this "update."

    But when the CEO of Apple himself tells you a new Mac Pro is coming, and you yell and scream about how the Mac Pro is dead, you have a few screws loose.
     
  8. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    You don't know how big that base is. It may be enough even with the defections that Apple considers it viable enough to grow.

    The upside with the Mac Pro owners is that they tend to hold onto the machines longer. It is doubtful that most flip their machines every 3 years. Many will only do it every 5-7 years. So that leaves a bunch of folks who may be mad but were not in the market for a new machine anyway. If Apple can get back on track before those folks upgrade then can still capture some, if not most, of that market.

    Frankly, the fact that WWDC presentation spent so much time on Facebook, Twitter, iMessage , and the chineese variants of those is much more unsettling from a "Pro" perspective than this "the dog ate my homework" excuse for an update.

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    He didn't say that. None of the Jobsian and now Cookian Zen Koans are explicit.

    There is something coming. It could be a HP Z1 clone. Maybe another re-imaging of the desktop.

    Frankly it is extremely hard to believe that "desktops" ( which include mini and iMac ) will wait past August to update if not exactly on the day Mountain Lion launches, but instead side into 2013.

    They updated the MBP 15" to retina but the MBP 17" disappeared.
     
  9. thefredelement macrumors 65816

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    Maybe they just have a cool idea they're working out for all desktops from the mini to the pro?

    Who knows, maybe they'll have desktop day with a new vision of how we get things done at the home base.
     
  10. skyline r34 macrumors 6502

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    Might as well start saving now, I got plenty of time but I kinda feel sorry for those who waited this long but i'm kinda glad that I didn't rush to sale my current 12-Core MP but I do got my eye on that retina display MBP
     
  11. GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

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    Later next year? Jesus really? Today's updates are supposed to hold pros over? I mean real pros.
     
  12. derbothaus macrumors 601

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    Pro's get paid. There are no other Pro's. You say "pros" but I think you mean e-peeners.
     
  13. Pompiliu macrumors 6502a

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    Lol, no.
    There's nothing pro in 2 year old CPUs, SATA 2, USB 2, no thunderbolt, ATI graphics (lol, ATI, now it's AMD).
    And HDD? lol. even the most consumer oriented mac (the air) has SSD.
     
  14. ThisIsNotMe macrumors 68000

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    Someone needs to start an "occupy apple" movement demanding new pros.
     
  15. hollin, Jun 11, 2012
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    I can speculate, too!

    What if Steve wasn't planning on updating the Mac Pros and now Tim is having to start completely from scratch?

    Telling myself this makes me feel better.
     
  16. throAU macrumors 601

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    Agreed (update is overdue and underdone), and the second paragraph is precisely my point.

    I'm guessing they're waiting for something related to thunderbolt perhaps.
     
  17. deconstruct60 macrumors 604

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    And how long does it take to pop out one of the drive sleds. Put in 2.5"-3.5" adpater and slide in a SSD? Not very long.

    You're not "stuck" with the configuration you buy from Apple. Most Mac Pro users are going to do a few changes after they buy the box. it is more what you bought as than I'm stuck with this for a long time.

    Honestly, the who "consumer" versus "pro" thing is way overblown. If you actually look at the average computer cost for the general PC market and at Mac prices they aren't the same. Everything in Apple's line up is "upper 30% percentile stuff". There are others also selling stuff just as expensive. An "entry level" laptop that starts at $999 isn't "entry level" from the overall market perspective.

    I suspect Apple is going to dump the "Pro" marker over the next couple of years on everything. Frankly, it is increasingly being usurped into being some elitist flag to rally around much more so than anything to do with usage in contexts where generating revenue/income.

    Probably end up with something like


    Macbook ------- 11" ___ 13" ______ 15"
    Mac ------------- mini __ 24"/27" __ Workstation
     
  18. JayJayAbels macrumors 6502

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    Maybe Haswell? I dunno... I'm livid. No Mac Pros. No iMacs.
    smh

    The ball has been dropped...

    :mad:

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    Maybe the iMac will pick up the 17" line like they used to have.

    But damn retinas are expensive as hell. Tough, tough pill to swallow for, I imagine, many.
     
  19. mac jones macrumors 68040

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    Why did this idiot Cook mention a MBP?

    Did anyone ask about this? :mad:
     
  20. Ender17 macrumors regular

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    Intel will probably come out with a "C616" chipset like they did with the 1155 Socket boards. First C202/C204/C206 for Sandy Bridge Xeon E3 CPUs, then C216 with USB 3.0 when Ivy Bridge Xeon E3 CPUs were released.
     
  21. goMac, Jun 12, 2012
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    Looks rather explicit to me.

    It does leave a lot unanswered as to what exactly that Mac Pro will be, but it's the words "new", "Mac Pro", "later next year."

    If you don't want to wait a year, and you need 16 cores now, by all means, jump off the train. If I were in that spot, I would too after what Apple released today.

    If you're not, Apple has already told you what they are doing. The timing isn't secret. Keep chugging on your current machine and there will be new ones next year.

    The best guesses I've seen is that Apple is either running into Thunderbolt issues, or the Mac Pro is getting a ground up redesign possibly to fill the XServe spot as well. But Apple has told you when it's coming. Either wait or move on.

    Myself, I'll stay calm, replace my MBP this year instead, keep my current Mac Pro running, and sanely re-evaluate again when Apple updates next year.
     
  22. Neodym macrumors 65816

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    Assuming for a moment that the quoted eMail is genuine. Even then I would expect that the CEO himself would speak up on stage!

    Just this few sentences in public rather than sending some vague eMails conspiratively to a few selected users...
     
  23. Lone Deranger macrumors 65816

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    Has there been some form of confirmation overnight that the emails are legit?
     
  24. Hanhart macrumors newbie

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    People who are 'happy' with this e-mail and are excusing Apple need to wake up.

    They had 2 years and now we have to wait another extra year.

    I ALWAYS defended Apple when someone said it was overpriced hardware, but this 'new' Mac Pro REALLY is overpriced hardware.
     
  25. Wild-Bill macrumors 68030

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    Even if this email is genuine (which I doubt) "...later next year" is just too late. That would mean the Mac Pro goes three years without an update. And for the few of you out there that believe this recent insult was an "update", I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

    They didn't even have the decency to ANYTHING with the video card lineup. Complete FAIL.
     

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