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theARNSKI

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Would anyone know or happen to have an idea as to how much an emergency room bill is without insurance?
 
Lol thanks for the replies everyone.

I was just asking for a friend who's tripping balls over it.

Last weekend, he went to a party and drank way too much. He doesn't remember the night at all. All he remembers is he was hanging with some friends and the next thing he knows, he's waking up in the emergency room. He drinks, but never to this excess, so he's really feeling ashamed and disappointed in himself that he made this mistake.

I asked him if he remembers what they did to him in the ER and all he recalls is they had an IV and a catheter in him. He doesn't know if he had to get his stomach pumped or anything else.
 
Lol thanks for the replies everyone.

I was just asking for a friend who's tripping balls over it.

Last weekend, he went to a party and drank way too much. He doesn't remember the night at all. All he remembers is he was hanging with some friends and the next thing he knows, he's waking up in the emergency room. He drinks, but never to this excess, so he's really feeling ashamed and disappointed in himself that he made this mistake.

I asked him if he remembers what they did to him in the ER and all he recalls is they had an IV and a catheter in him. He doesn't know if he had to get his stomach pumped or anything else.

Tell your friend to ask for the medical history for that day. See what they did. Most likely they just did IV to inject fluids... stomach pumping is sorta a last resort deal and is usually done with charcoal (nasty black stuff).
 
Ahhh right on. I'll let him know.

I talked to him earlier and he was asking if he will be charged in regards to how long he was there. He talked to a coworker who filled him in on the story and he believes he was admitted to the ER around 2am and he was discharged at about 7am.
 
I wouldn't think it's too bad, if all they did was give him an IV and a catheter.

Five hours in emergency room is a blink of an eye - they couldn't have done TOO much to him in that time, given my experiences with a typical emergency room.
 
only 5 hours? ... that is only 1/2 the waiting time here in our emergency rooms ... even with broken bones.

I am sure being intoxicated made it easier too ... if he does not know what it was for, I am sure it was minor. :cool:
 
Your bs is becoming tiresome. Most wait times are under 4 hours. In big hospitals, only 10% are longer than 9 hours.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2007/01/25/er-waits.html

whatever ... yawn ... the bs article you posted is 3 years old and from the CBC which is owned by the Government.

Back to your BS ... Do you ever read the crap you link to (or do you just google ... btw, all the stuff on google's first couple of pages is 3 years old)

I copied this from the Article YOU linked to
According to the study, Toronto had the worst times in Ontario, with half of people in and out of the ER in four hours, while 10 per cent waited more than 12 hours.

Did you read 12 hours ... trust me ... I live here in Hogtown and it is more than 10% of the time (that is just what the Gov. CBC tells people)
 
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I wouldn't think it's too bad, if all they did was give him an IV and a catheter.

Five hours in emergency room is a blink of an eye - they couldn't have done TOO much to him in that time, given my experiences with a typical emergency room.

Right on. I'll be sure to reassure him that.

No insurance? By choice, neglect or unaffordable?

I'd like to say it's by choice. I actually asked him a similar question once before. He is working full-time right now as a government employee. He is/was eligible for benefits just recently, but his parents decided to add them back onto their insurance with the whole Obama Health Care Reform (effective Jan 2011), so he could get more money in his paycheck. Seems really honest, but that choice seems to have worked against him in this case.

only 5 hours? ... that is only 1/2 the waiting time here in our emergency rooms ... even with broken bones.

I am sure being intoxicated made it easier too ... if he does not know what it was for, I am sure it was minor. :cool:

Well, he knew off the bat when he woke up in the ER why he was in there.
 
Not to make this political or anything, but since it has already gone in that direction...

It's not like all universal health insurance schemes will offer precisely the same outcomes; there are a lot of confounding variables. There is literally no point in comparing two nation's health care systems without taking into consideration other variables. The biggest, of course, is amount of funding. If Canada spent the same percentage of GDP on health care that the United States does, I'm sure that their health care system would probably be better than ours in virtually every respect.

To be honest, I would think that the funding mechanism is one of the least powerful factors in determining health care quality anyway.
 
Could be cheap if they have a fast track, where PAs and NPs are employed so that he didn't even see a MD.

Nothing you can really do for a drunk, just rehydrate if you need some IV practice and wait it off.

I wouldn't expect a large bill at all, more so if he went to a urgent care.
 
I don't understand why a working adult of 25 would be considered a dependent eligible for a parent's health plan, especially when there is an option to join the employer's group plan.

Is this why our group coverage just increased by 24%? Could be a factor.
 
Ahhh right on. I'll let him know.

I talked to him earlier and he was asking if he will be charged in regards to how long he was there. He talked to a coworker who filled him in on the story and he believes he was admitted to the ER around 2am and he was discharged at about 7am.

Yeah 5 hours isn't much. Just the IV to hydrate him and wait for the alcohol to exit his system.

Although if he is still paranoid about the bill, a medical chart should cover everything done.
 
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jav6454: Thanks again for your help. You've been very informative and reassuring this whole thread. He's plenty relieved, for the time being, that he shouldn't be expecting a bill of $1billion (he honestly felt like he would be...overdramatic lol).

iJohnHenry: Haha. I actually joked with him to see how much that night actually cost him, from his new shirt to the drinks to the ER bill.

On an unrelated note, I was always bummed when I learned that the MR Forums became blocked at work and it never occured to me to check MR in my iPhone. I like how it's optimized for it. Pretty nifty.

UPDATE: coincidentally after I posted this, my friend called me to fill me in with some news. He got hold of the hospital's billing department and his bill isn't finalized yet, but at this point it's about $5670 with a chance of still raising before finalizing. He tried to ask if the charges can be broken down, but the lady said not yet, since it hasnt been finalized. He's back to tripping out.
 
He got hold of the hospital's billing department and his bill isn't finalized yet, but at this point it's about $5670 with a chance of still raising before finalizing.

That's nuts. :eek:

I've had two ER visits without insurance, one cost me $450 and the other was $600. Five grand seems absurd (depending on what they did, of course).
 
That's nuts. :eek:

I've had two ER visits without insurance, one cost me $450 and the other was $600. Five grand seems absurd (depending on what they did, of course).

well presumably you were conscious, coherent and able to tell the people at the ER what had happened to you

This guy doesn't even seem to know how he got there ($$ ambulance perhaps ?? $$) and only seems to remember a little of what happened, so who knows what tests they did trying to figure out what was up with the guy.

Typically a night of heavy drinking doesn't end up at the emergency room unless the drunk's behavior is scaring the daylights out of his fellow drinkers
 
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