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To argue a screen shot is fake seems a pretty mute point anyway. Hell would have to freeze over for there not to be a 3G iPhone release in a matter of weeks. With regard the on/off setting, that's to be expected too, almost all 3G phone have the ability to turn it off in order to save battery life.
 
Interesting.

3G may use more power, but won't it use more power for less time since you're downloading faster?

Example, a page takes 20 seconds to download with EDGE, but only 5 seconds with 3G. Doesn't that mean that even if 3G uses more power, the overall energy consumption will be lower or the same since you use it for less time?

Good question. I really think that it will at least be very close to the current battery life or else Steve wouldn't have gone for it yet. But I think they will have beefed up the battery a bit to compensate which is why it is rumored to be a hair thicker.

Anyone in here have the knowledge to answer his query?
 
when i had a 3G phone before the thing that got me to switch off 3G wasn't because 3G itself used up loads of battery, but because where i live there is 3g signal but if i move around my house or even my room sometimes it gets weak enough that the phone will fall back to GSM, but whenever it falls back to GSM it searches to see if there's a 3G network and if it can find one will switch back to it... i found my phone permanently doing this all the time as i moved around my house reduced the battery life loads! but when i was somewhere with solid 3G signal the battery life wasn't too bad, so maybe this is why apple have included the option - not because the 3G iphone is going to have terrible battery life, but rather because in certain situations where 3G signal is bad the switching between 3G and GSM all the time would hurt the battery life?
 
Now, all you need for proof yourself is to install the iPhone Simulator and type that Terminal command that that guy did!

I never thought it was fake anyway, we KNOW there is a 3G iPhone coming on June 9th, its almost certain!
 
Good question. I really think that it will at least be very close to the current battery life or else Steve wouldn't have gone for it yet. But I think they will have beefed up the battery a bit to compensate which is why it is rumored to be a hair thicker.

Anyone in here have the knowledge to answer his query?

In a good 3G area you're not going to see any battery life difference anyway - experiments with my N95 ages ago showed no difference at all around here... I believe the difference comes from fringe areas where the phone will increase power to find a 3G tower in preference over a possibly closer 2G one.

If you switch wifi off then you may even get an improvement - wifi is a pretty major battery hog too.
 
Interesting.

3G may use more power, but won't it use more power for less time since you're downloading faster?

Example, a page takes 20 seconds to download with EDGE, but only 5 seconds with 3G. Doesn't that mean that even if 3G uses more power, the overall energy consumption will be lower or the same since you use it for less time?

This theory does work for the downloading, yes it will load pages very quickly compared to EDGE/2g but 3g saps the battery a lot even if you're NOT downloading/surfing the web, ie, in the background. In the UK we've had 3g on most phones for at least a couple of years and i leave mine off. At the moment i've just got a SE W880i so web browsing isn't exactly exciting! (very small screen, so i don't really web browse) but having 3g on really kills the battery standby time!

I suppose the point to the whole iphone/3g thing is you have the option to turn it on when your going to do some heavy web browsing or music downloading via iTunes, which will be the main point to 3g.

On a slight tangent to this subject i think for me everyone is getting very excited about the 3g aspect to the next version of iphone, but if its just a form change and 3g then i dont think i'll be scrabling to get one, in other words ole steve has to have something else up his sleeves in June! The 3g rumours has definately deflected everyone attention to the point something else, GPS (which is another rumour) is going to really swing it to make everyone update to/buy the new version.
 
Eh, how is this bad news? They've giving you the option to shut off 3G if you don't need it... Is it even possible to give that concept the thumbs down?
 
3g on off switch

Am i the only one thats not surprised by this? Although its great that Apple are finally moving towards 21st century products (although i have no doubt this was there plan from the start) doesn't every 3G phone have the capability to turn it off, and switch back to the original 2G or EDGE networks? I know my nokia n80 did a few years ago when i had 3G problems!
 
fake or not!!

fake or not.. so what??!! Its obvious 3G is coming, yes it might have an impact on the battery life.. 3G feature hardly a big surprise!! Its been talked about since the release of the iPhone!!
Any better rumours? Am sure apple have something for us on Jobs next appearance :cool::apple:
 
can i just ask and this may seem rather silly but why would a 3g phone of any kind not just iphone need 3g turned off yes granted 3g battary life is some times rubish just depends on what your doing with your phone such as playing music as well as surfing the net..


Just seems kind of daft to me
 
You could have said that in a better way with less arrogance.

Arrogance also comes to those who refused to believe about the 3G setting from those who actually use 3G phones before.

Where was the kind consideration for these people then?
 
I can hardly imagine the battery life

not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.
 
can i just ask and this may seem rather silly but why would a 3g phone of any kind not just iphone need 3g turned off yes granted 3g battary life is some times rubish just depends on what your doing with your phone such as playing music as well as surfing the net..


Just seems kind of daft to me

As per my other post, it doesnt matter if you're surfing the web or not, just having 3g on drains the battery a lot.

My SE W880i, thin, so a small battery last at least a week (on 24hrs a day) with normal use (calls, texts) without 3g on, with it on i'll get 4 days standby, normal use.
 
not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.

I wonder how much this will be affected by the size of the network..I'm no expert here, just asking!

i.e. if the 3g network masts are fewer and farther between, won't the phone be trying to "talk" to a possibly more distant mast, therefore using more power?

Maybe someone could elucidate!
 
not sucking hard when it is used with 3G!

I listen to podcasts all day at work with Wi-fi off, EDGE on, and the battery indicator barely budges from full. I used Wi-fi for less than an hour the other day, and ate up more than half of the battery life.

If Steve found that the effect of Wi-Fi on battery life was acceptable, but 3G was not, I'll bet that 3G's effect on the battery must've been dramatic. So, either they've drastically improved 3G technology in the past few months or the whiners are going to get their wish: a 3G iPhone that works for a half an hour between charges.


Yeah, im kinda with you on this one. I fully believe that the only way we'll get decent battery life with all the new technology coming into phones these days (3g, GPS, Video+music playback) is when we make the next step in battery technology, which doesnt seem to be forthcoming....but thats another thread/topic!

But basically im hoping that in the last 18 months between the development of the v1 iphone and now there's been a big jump in 3g chips/power consumption and that Steve hasn't buckled and just chucked in 3g to plicate the consumers that really, really want 3g. If thats the case we will be looking at charging the v2 iphone every day!!:eek:

Having said that i dont think uncle steve would let that happen (cross fingers!)
 

Well kind of yes!

lithium-ion or lithium polymer batteries still don't hold up well to GPS, Wi-Fi, 3g use all day! When the Nokia N73 first came out and had all this switched on/used it pretty much needed a charge every day.

What battery will give you, say a weeks use with all this new technology being used everyday.......nothing yet, unless im missing something!:)
 
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