Enabling smart quotes by default?

Discussion in 'iOS 7' started by Crusoe, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. Crusoe macrumors regular

    Feb 6, 2014
    Is there any way to enable smart quotes by default in iOS 7?

    Some apps (such as Tweetbot 3) use them, but built-in apps such as Messages default to dumb quotes.
  2. Infinus.gold macrumors regular


    Jan 23, 2014
  3. Crusoe thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 6, 2014
    Let's see if this comes out...

    Dumb quotes - "abc"
    Smart quotes - “abc”
  4. bransoj macrumors 6502a

    Jul 31, 2013
    I'm still with the other guy....What's smart Quotes ? :confused:
  5. Infinus.gold macrumors regular


    Jan 23, 2014
    Make sense now...
    dumb quotes: ASCII
    smart quotes: Unicode.

    May be you can request some programmer to over ride and release for JB devices.
  6. C DM macrumors Westmere

    Oct 17, 2011
    What makes them smart or dumb given just a simple and minor practically irrelevant difference in the slant essentially?
  7. Crusoe thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 6, 2014
    No idea. That's the common name used to differentiate them. I'd guess it's because the computer or device is 'smart' enough to recognise the start and end of the text the quote marks encapsulate.
  8. GrowlyBird macrumors newbie

    Nov 14, 2013
    "Smart" quotes term misused

    Calling the "curly" quotes "smart" quotes is an example of language decay. When I worked on word processors in the '80s and '90s we called them "typographic" quotes. What makes them smart is that you type " or ' (the standard quote characters on the keyboard) and the software would figure out whether to substitute a left or right curly quote. For example, you type
    "This is John's car," he said.​
    and the WP would substitute a left double curly quote, right single curly quote, right double curly quote.
  9. r3p0d3p0t macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2014
    We’re not using quotes at all, smart or dumb. “Dumb quotes” are properly used to show minutes and seconds in latitude / longitude or feet and inches (among other things I’m sure).

    Seconds/Inch Mark "
    Minutes/Foot Mark '
    Single Quotes ‘ ’
    Double Quotes “ ”

    That said, the use of smart/curly/typographer’s quotes varies:

    No defaults to specify in Mac or iOS that I know of, but you can send feedback here: https://www.apple.com/feedback/
  10. CPx macrumors 6502

    Sep 6, 2013
    I've always been wary of smart quotes and apostrophes as sometimes they get rendered incorrectly on different systems. But maybe the situation is better these days. Also I think they sometimes take up a little too much typographic space (especially the apostrophes).
  11. Winona Northdakota, Jul 26, 2014
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2014

    Winona Northdakota macrumors 6502a

    Dec 27, 2010
    Enabling smart quotes by default?

    In OS X Mavericks, smart quotes is on by default. Here's how to turn it off:

    1. In the top menu bar, Click on the Apple logo and then System Preferences.

    2. Now click on Keyboard.

    3. Click on the Text tab.

    4. Uncheck Use smart quotes and dashes.

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