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Epic ultimately wants to sell digital skins and other goods to its Fortnite customers without having to give Apple a 30 percent cut of its proceeds.
When asked if they’re fine with giving Nintendo and Sony their cut of its proceeds, the spokesperson scurried away into the night emitting a high pitched screech. Then exploded in the distance.
 
Sweeney has been successful well before iOS was a thing. Fortnite's success wasn't dependent on iOS either. A significant portion, yes, but not it's life blood.
I don’t think it was ever even a significant portion. My thinking was that he was always going to end the Fortnite experiment on iOS devices and, since he was headed out the door anyway, figured he’d try to burn the house down on the way. If he was REALLY concerned about the amount of money he was paying out, what he’s sending to Sony, Steam, Microsoft, and Nintendo would have been far more beneficial for him to end.

The fact that they’re good paying some vendors but not others will not be lost on the Supreme Court.
 
Except an entire platform, user base, payment processing, dispute and refund process. Hardware with software updates to keep users continuing to use the platform and return….
funny how it’s seen as “nothing” when you don’t get to control and have your way
 
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I think a big issue is that Epic keeps saying "we want to get in to the app store, developers need the Epic Games store"

I tried installing the Epic Games store on an android device I have. 3 titles all Epic Releases.
It is no Epic Games Store on the PC
 
This is really funny. The amount of money Epic Games lost because of fighting the 30% fee is way more than what they could earn with this. They have been missing out on the App Store for years already, to be more specific, since August 2020. It's almost 2024 here, in the corner.

A lot of people could download Fortnite, play, and enjoy it, and additionally, make purchases if they want to. A 30% fee is still better than earning $0 for them (Epic). Nothing will make up for over 3 years of lost earnings.

They're not going to win this. In 1-2 years, Apple will enable additional app stores anyway, but the additional hassle and potential security and payment issues won't be worth it for many people. The App Store is just secure and convenient most of the time. And if there's something fraudulent, Apple refunds it. Good luck with them.
 
The most polarised issue dividing the community, now into its, uh, second anniversary at this point?
At this point no one knows what Epic still want, while Apple doesn’t even care anymore.
The epic momentum has since long gone. Epic story must come to an end at some point if they don’t want to turn the whole epic journey into an epic failure.
(Let me have some fun with this pls -_-)
 
Maybe the 30% fee is so parents can get their money back from Apple if Epic breaches their contracts on selling fake money and digital outfits to children.
 
Everyone's already talking about antitrust, but Epic can't win this case?
This doesn’t really qualify as an antitrust situation since people have option. Epic has themselves to blame for this, they wanted better profit margins and decided to use subterfuge, there by breaching their contract.
Simply put, if you want to play Fortnite don’t get an iPhone.
 
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There is NO antitrust case here.

Audible directs me to their web store if I want to purchase an audiobook to listen on the iOS app. It doesn’t even let me go through the app through Apple to order it.

Similarly, Niantic give discounts for Pokémon Go on their web store. It’s essentially the price without Apple’s cut.

If there are so many App Store or web stores or company etc that can do this, what is the fuss with Epic? Just get your Fornite players to buy them on your web store.
 
Except an entire platform, user base, payment processing, dispute and refund process. Hardware with software updates to keep users continuing to use the platform and return….
Yep. I faced an issue with an App and I contacted Apple....not the developers....for a refund. Now how is that person I talked to getting their salary?
 
There is NO antitrust case here.

Audible directs me to their web store if I want to purchase an audiobook to listen on the iOS app. It doesn’t even let me go through the app through Apple to order it.

Similarly, Niantic give discounts for Pokémon Go on their web store. It’s essentially the price without Apple’s cut.

If there are so many App Store or web stores or company etc that can do this, what is the fuss with Epic? Just get your Fornite players to buy them on your web store.
That would be detrimental to their business model where they want you to make rash decisions about your purchase. ANY additional barrier (directing to a website) will make you think "should I really buy this?".

Epic is NOT here to help the little guy (small devs) or help the community. They just want to milk more money from their customers.
 
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The Supreme Court is the last stop for Epic Games after it lost an appeal earlier this year. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in April 2023 sided with the lower court and ruled that Apple's App Store rules do not violate antitrust law by not allowing for third-party marketplaces.

Since 2020, Epic has been pushing for a ruling that would allow it to skirt the App Store and offer apps directly to consumers through sideloading or an alternate store, but its legal arguments have not been successful. Epic ultimately wants to sell digital skins and other goods to its Fortnite customers without having to give Apple a 30 percent cut of its proceeds.
I keep waiting for Epic to stop extended court battle with Apple and just start porting games that run on AS Macs that don't need to use the Apple Store like many PC based games and make a small fortune selling digital skins and other goods all they want to.
 
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