I will not use your app or give you my credit card, they will lose customers. There is a reason devs make more off of iOS.
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Epic Games Setting Up Webshops for iOS Developers to Offer Users Out-of-App Purchases
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I don't think it was entirely the iPhone itself, it was also the fact that Apple removed so many barriers to publishing Apps (code signing, hosting, handling payment, etc...), they deserve a ton of credit for this. The world's moved on though, it is no longer as easy to just use Apple's payment processing (especially if you need to work cross platform).
I don't actually have an objection to hosting fees for the App Store, and they already charge $99/year for the tooling (though maybe you think that is too low), but they should be distinguished from commissions on each transaction, I think Apple has finally (and rightfully) lost that battle.
Apple is as anticompetitive as a company can be. Shocked they haven’t been brought down like Google is under fire. Apple is far less fair and every action acts like a company that wants to ensure no competition is fair. Whether Apple steals their developers apps and include in iOS or blatantly tell me I can’t install whatever I want on my device it’s anticompetitive and should be stopped. I hope Tim finally gets cut for this. He maximized shareholder value while ensuring every other stakeholder got the shaft.
I do think Apple should just charge what they think is fair for a developer account to access all the APIs and etc. But then not be entitled to any cut sold outside of their anticompetitive store. I also believe that Tim will continue to dodge and manipulate until he is either ousted or decided he made enough at one point someone else can fix all his mistakes and the hole he dug for Apple. Made a ton of money for shareholders, and himself and his executives, but every other stakeholder whether a customer in America, a slave building the devices, a supplier and worst Apple’s own employees and developers for the not just taken advantage of but lied to cheated and in many cases stolen from.
Edit: but without developers no platform has survived. That’s why the developers deserve not to be ripped off and treated in this manner. This is all GREED by Tim Crook.
Not up to me, the competition authorities have made this decision which they have every right to do in a democracy.
This comparison is plain stupid. If Heinz does not like Walmart fees, they can sell the ketchup to you via tons of other stores/chains. This let market set the fair price. But if Heinz wants to sell you (iPhone owner) their app, they are forced to pay 30% fee to Apple. Thus there is no way for the market to set fair prices. That's why app stores are treated differently than grocery stores. The new system will allow the market to establish fair price for the apps and related services. Good for the consumers. Apple has been robbing us and app developers for too long. Enough.
I don’t sign up for any subscriptions directly through the AppStore because I know it’s usually cheaper if you subscribe directly with the app provider. This option should get a lot more publicity in the media so more people are aware of it.
Well he was handpicked by Steve Jobs and made apple one of the wealthiest companies ever but sure he should ask you for advice
Doesn't seem like a better analogy because Apple doesn't require every brand to give them a 30% cut of every sale made anywhere. And the customer can find the product on the App Store and then later buy it directly from the brand's website without involving Apple at all. Like literally everything you said it should be is how the current system already is.
Let’s see what happens to your share price when Apple lose their $20bn payment from Google every year, their revenue from services starts falling because of AppStore changes and customers are faced with higher prices due to tariffs.
Exactly. Amazing how many people in the MR forums who are always talking about Android phones seem to have forgotten about the Play Store today. Funny, that.
Meh. Most won't use this 3rd party App Store unless they recruit big dogs. "Small Developers" can publish, but it will be like shopping at "the other mall" from prior decades...
NOTE TO DEVELOPERS:
I WILL NEVER BUY IN APP PURCHASES THROUGH EPIC. USE THEM EXCLUSIVELY AT YOUR OWN DETRIMENT.
I WILL NEVER BUY IN APP PURCHASES THROUGH EPIC. USE THEM EXCLUSIVELY AT YOUR OWN DETRIMENT.
What if Walmart funded the infrastructure and ongoing maintenance of the factory that produces Heinz ketchup, in return for supplying the product exclusively to Walmart? This is a frequently overlooked aspect. For instance, think of Target approaching Heinz to stock their product, while assuming they will continue utilizing the Walmart-supported factories.
In this convoluted analogy, it may seem unfair for Walmart to prevent Heinz from selling their product elsewhere. However, it also appears reasonable for Heinz to pay a fair market value for the infrastructure provided by Walmart, wouldn’t you agree?
Wait a minute. Scott Forestall was not considered ready but he was Steve’s pick. He and the board agreed to a three to five year transition period. What did Tim Crook do, he ensured that he setup every person competing for his job - for failure. Blamed maps on Forestall then cut him. I believe we would have far more innovation with Scott at the helm. He understands the product line. There should be a COO like Crook to ensure the products get developed. But a leader who understands the technology needs to be at the helm. Even the executive team has been screwed over by the CFO costing the AI development money to be cut by more than half.
Tim’s vision was to sell us cars and Vision Pros that are inferior in both cases and he spent maybe $20B in his failures. Vision Pro is not ready. It’s a true project that those who paid for it are Guinea pigs. Apple should have continued to develop it but not released it until it was something more like Meta Ray Bans. Something that’s eyeglasses. Not a head mount that weighs too much and downright hurts after an hour on one’s face due to the issues of technology desires being good but not being small enough or weigh less so one can wear it as a consumer device.
Tim has lied, cheated, stolen, backstabbed, and manipulated his way through the whole process. I love Apple, but I refuse to invest in AAPL and will not have any sympathy for AAPL being broken up or losing a little money to the stakeholders who actually deserve the money. Not Tim Crook and his annual $100m stock grants, by screwing over everyone who isn’t a large shareholder or one of his buddies on the executive team that follows his commands. Because we all know if you pose a threat to Tim, you’re gone.
Thanks EU for leading the way. Where are all the „blablabla Apple walled garden“, „EU communism“ etc comments?
Your comment perfectly encapsulates why so many loved Steve Jobs and hate Tim Cook. Steve was all about delivering great products, Tim is all about making as much money as possible.
Just watch this play out. Apple will 100% enforce some new aspect of their business practice to inconvience customers and or developers from using this method. They will design the os around it even. Late patches to certification issues etc they will go out of their way to discredit this system
So now we see why Epic were really doing this, they want to be able to take the cream off themselves.... pure and simple greed.
Epic Games today announced plans for Epic Games Store Webshops, a feature that will allow developers to launch digital storefronts that are hosted by the Epic Games Store. With Apple's mandated App Store rule changes in the United States, developers will soon be able to direct customers to web shops to make out-of-app purchases, bypassing the in-app purchase flow.
The Epic Games Store will charge developers a 0 percent fee for the first $1,000,000 in revenue they collect per app per year, and after that, developers will need to pay Epic a 12 percent cut. The fees are applicable to all payments that are processed by the Epic Games Store. Epic Games also says that players that spend in Epic Webshops will be able to accrue 5 percent Epic Rewards on all purchases.
Many smaller games do not exceed $1 million in revenue per year, so the Epic Games Store Webshop could be a viable option for small and independent developers. Developers that earn more will likely want to set up their own payment options using online payment platforms like Stripe or Shopify for even lower fees.
Epic's announcement follows a ruling yesterday that will see Apple forced to make major updates to its U.S. App Store policies as part of an ongoing App Store dispute with Epic Games. Apple cannot prevent developers from directing customers to better deals outside of the App Store, nor can the company collect fees for these purchases, among other changes.
Apple was ordered to comply with the order immediately, and the court said that it "will not tolerate further delays." Apple said that it plans to implement the changes as ordered, though it will appeal the decision.
Article Link: Epic Games Setting Up Webshops for iOS Developers to Offer Users Out-of-App Purchases
How is it easier for customers to have to get out their credit card every time they want to buy an app? The current system is the convenient one, hence developers make so much off of iOS.
Everything you buy for your house should only be purchased through your builders store.
Only your original car manufacturer can sell you anything for your car.
Got audio equipment? Everything played on it, the manufacturer gets a cut and determines what’s available.
AT&T should be the only company selling phones and services. They should never have been broken up.
ESSO should be the only gas station. That whole Standard Oil thing killed the consumer with inferior products.
Anything cooked on a Whirlpool range has to pass through the whirlpool store.
Geez…life would be great and so much safer and simpler that way.
Only your original car manufacturer can sell you anything for your car.
Got audio equipment? Everything played on it, the manufacturer gets a cut and determines what’s available.
AT&T should be the only company selling phones and services. They should never have been broken up.
ESSO should be the only gas station. That whole Standard Oil thing killed the consumer with inferior products.
Anything cooked on a Whirlpool range has to pass through the whirlpool store.
Geez…life would be great and so much safer and simpler that way.
In other words, you're looking forward to Tim Cook actually getting to go to jail for doing more criminal contempt?
Yeah, that would be nice. But I'd rather Apple just shut down the app store and let us install software normally.
How to kill the iPhone in one easy step.