I don't think an organisation that sells virtual bucks, mainly to kids, can really claim they need to reduce/remove Apple's cut of the profit for the good of everybody else.
He’s only here to defend Apple, it’s cute how he focuses on this one game when there are countless others that do the same exact thing. He’s just pissed because Apple is being challenged, and for good reason.
We can still use the products and not defend the company like it's our mother 🙄Always to know, why do 'haters' of Apple, sign up to an Apple based discussion forum, and create division, and profess to be knowledgeable about seemingly everything?Whether you like Apple or not, they have an uncanny neck of taking products and services, and renewing interest in them. They say flattery is the best compliment.
Fortnite has more registered accounts than the population of the United States. I'd say a few people had heard of it.Who had even ever *heard* of fortnite before this?
They could always not have their product on there if they weren’t happy.
seriously, if you don't agree with the rules of the game, don't play. Fortnite can choose to not be on the App or Play store if they really didn't agree with Apple or Google's policies.
they willingly agreed to a contract set-out by Apple for a service that they were not forced to join
No-one is forcing them to continue develop for Apple products, and no-one forced them to sign up to become an Apple developer. They don't like it, there are plenty of other avenues.
Epic willingly became an Apple certified developer released content under the acknowledgement that the fee was 30%.
Who are you to tell Apple what is too much? Developers agree to it. Otherwise, make your stuff for another platform.
Macs are more secure than PCs for two reasons: tighter control and smaller market share. iPhones only have one of those advantages.We aren’t supposed to acknowledge that the mac exists in the same universe as the iphone. Otherwise we have to explain how apple made it secure while allowing software install from multiple sources and they can’t do it in an iPhone. Or maybe apple’s position is that the mac is just not secure?
Suing over profit margins. Good luck with that. LOL.Insisting that you have to either accept things as they are or leave is a false dichotomy. Campaigning (or suing) for change is also a valid option. Having agreed to terms in the past doesn't preclude anyone from renegotiating them now. The problem is that most developers aren't in a position to negotiate.
I don't buy for a minute that Epic is motivated in this fight by anything more than their own profits, but I hope they can force change anyway for the sake of smaller developers and for users who should be entitled to use the hardware we paid for outright in any way we please.
The fact that Apple and Google charge the same rates and that they both blocked this move by Epic within hours of each other is so damning to each of them. It speaks to absolute collusion as together they completely own this market.
Fortnite has more registered accounts than the population of the United States. I'd say a few people had heard of it.
How can anyone defend Epic's behaviour?
If they don't like what they deem as a 'monopoly' - the idea that they willingly agreed to a contract set-out by Apple for a service that they were not forced to join - then they can always do the right thing and not make their games not 'free-to-play' (which itself entices users into spending huge sums of money over the lifespan of the game).
The likes of Epic Games knew the App Store guidelines from the moment they signed up to become an Apple authorised developer. If they are genuinely 'looking out' for consumers, and stand by this notion that they are freeing users/others from a monopoly, then they wouldn’t even have Fortnite available in the App Store in first place.
I don’t recall a big fuss when the App Store was tiny, and was still taking a 30% cut from literally ‘hundreds’, not millions, of downloads.
And yes, it turns out that millions of people like to purchase Apple devices and download apps. If that's a monopoly all these years on, then we've seen little fuss of it so far.
Truth is, Epic are just throwing their toys out of the pram because they know they don’t have a sustainable business model. Instead, all they care about is getting users - particularly those who are under age - to download software like this at no cost (because they are already feel entitled) and then continually spend money on intangible ‘features’.
They want an extra 30%? Do the right thing and make the software paid-for. Otherwise, there are plenty of other platforms to draw people into.
The sad part about all this of course that many young people who don't understand business practice, or the history behind 1984 as a novel or the Apple commercial, will start spreading hatred towards Apple.
Yes - it seems Epic in particular is doing this in a nasty way
I have to wonder that if Fortnite wasn’t nearly as popular as it is (was?), just how many people would be so vocal in their support?
In other words, is the Epic support based upon emotive desire to play the game, or rational belief in the underlying argument?
Epic would have e looked a whole lot better if it didn’t pull this stunt and alienate its iOS users.Insisting that you have to either accept things as they are or leave is a false dichotomy. Campaigning (or suing) for change is also a valid option. Having agreed to terms in the past doesn't preclude anyone from renegotiating them now. The problem is that most developers aren't in a position to negotiate.
I don't buy for a minute that Epic is motivated in this fight by anything more than their own profits, but I hope they can force change anyway for the sake of smaller developers and for users who should be entitled to use the hardware we paid for outright in any way we please.
To some degree one might argue that they sell exactly as many bucks as they can extract from the buyers budget. Lowering Apple’s cut will thus just redirect it into Epic’s coffers with zero benefit for the end user.I don't think an organisation that sells virtual bucks, mainly to kids, can really claim they need to reduce/remove Apple's cut of the profit for the good of everybody else.