Espionage Thriller 'Tehran' Now Available on Apple TV+

[gaximus]

I only do streaming now, I'm very used to the binge ability of all my services. I'm not a fan of how they release a few shows at once then start a weekly release. If I binge 3 shows and have to wait another week for just one more show, I'll probably forget stop watch all together.

 

[Wakey87433]

Personally while all of ATV+ shows have been good they seem to be missing that stand out one at the moment. It needs it's House of Cards, handmaid's tale, transparent which fully legitimises it.

At some point as well they are going to need to go broader with their content which is what Netflix ended up learning. High quality content is less accessible which limits the services appeal. That's ok now as Apple has the money to subsidise the expensive niche appeal content but at some point they are going to want the service to make money, after all that's why they didn't restrict it to just Apple devices . You need that mix to appeal to the largest cross section as possible

 

[Wakey87433]

I only do streaming now, I'm very used to the binge ability of all my services. I'm not a fan of how they release a few shows at once then start a weekly release. If I binge 3 shows and have to wait another week for just one more show, I'll probably forget stop watch all together.

See I like their way of doing it. The more high brow content usually takes 3 episodes to become fully engaging so it makes it less likely you give up too early but it then going weekly you still get that ability to have that discussion that enhances a show which you don't really get on binge shows as everyone is at different stages so it limits it. It's also better for services as Netflix basically need a new original that appeals to each subscriber each month which is expensive but Apple get 2 to 3 months which is slightly better financially. Mind you ideally I think services should be more adaptable, the release schedule should depend more on the content than forcing it. Some gain nothing with a weekly release while others lose something being binged

 

[Gasu E.]

I'd rather watch

Me, too. Actually going undercover in Teheran sounds a bit too dangerous for my taste. I'd rather watch someone else do it.

 

[Veinticinco]

Looks very familiar, almost a spin-off side mission from the (excellent) Fauda producers. Except they’ve cleverly (or confusingly) used the same character actor (evil goatee) from the Iranian season of Homeland.

It’ll be watchable but having viewed the trailer, really hope it’s got a certain identity of its own to be able to sustain a whole new series.

(As for Apple TV+, just watched ep 9 of the unexpectedly great Ted Lasso. Not quite the top corner of the previous episode or two, but still a solid panenka down the middle.)

 

[chucker23n1]

Personally while all of ATV+ shows have been good they seem to be missing that stand out one at the moment. It needs it's House of Cards, handmaid's tale, transparent which fully legitimises it.

House of Cards happened six years after Netflix started its streaming efforts (and 16 years after it was founded).

Handmaid's Tale happened ten years after Hulu launched.

I think Apple TV+ has some time to come up with a hit.

 

[Benjamid]

I’m in. Love espionage thrillers.


Just because you've never heard of them doesn’t mean they aren’t at least as good. They’re just not about crime in East Coast, USA.

I did not think that the Sopranos and the Wire were that good.
I think Dark or Mad Men were way better.

 

[Black Belt]

Watching and liking what I’m watching!

 

[scgf]

I've watched the whole series elsewhere and loved it. It's not overly political, it just reflects that Israel and Iran are on opposite sides of the fence and that Mossad has operations in Iran just as Iran has operations in Israel. I had to watch in HD but with a mono soundtrack. The trailer on Apple TV+ sounds very good indeed in comparison.

 

[UKPoliticsGuy]

Apple: Expect DDOS attacks in 3 .. 2 .. 1

 

[Apple_Robert]

I just got done watching the first episode and it was very good.

 

[cmaier]

Personally while all of ATV+ shows have been good they seem to be missing that stand out one at the moment. It needs it's House of Cards, handmaid's tale, transparent which fully legitimises it.

At some point as well they are going to need to go broader with their content which is what Netflix ended up learning. High quality content is less accessible which limits the services appeal. That's ok now as Apple has the money to subsidise the expensive niche appeal content but at some point they are going to want the service to make money, after all that's why they didn't restrict it to just Apple devices . You need that mix to appeal to the largest cross section as possible

Ted Lasso is standout.

And why do they need to go broader with their content? Is that how art works?

 

[sajlonix]

why there isnt english language for this show??? only titles, dont get it..

 

[Apple_Robert]

why there isnt english language for this show??? only titles, dont get it..

Some of the dialogue is in English.

 

[Apple_Robert]

I just finished episode 2. It is excellent thus far. It makes me want to binge the episodes but, I want to pace myself. Very suspenseful with good acting.

 

[whirldy]

GREAT SHOW!
I really like Apple’s Original Content!!

 

[CthuluLemon]

If Apple accepts (or has already) that they need time to build up their library, I could see ATV+ being a slow burn that's highly successful in the long term. They've signed agreements with great talent to make great content and have the capital to pull it off. It's going to take time though, and they may have to be in the red for a lot longer than services with existing catalogs at their disposal. As long as they set the right expectations with shareholders to keep the project alive, everything seems to be in place for success.

 

[citysnaps]

Watched two episodes last night. I'm hooked!

 

[I7guy]

Israel makes the best TV shows, so can’t wait to watch this 🇮🇱

Yep. Shtisel, Srugim, Hashoter Hatov to name three that I liked.

 

[Wakey87433]

House of Cards happened six years after Netflix started its streaming efforts (and 16 years after it was founded).

Handmaid's Tale happened ten years after Hulu launched.

I think Apple TV+ has some time to come up with a hit.

The difference is though neither came out of the gate trying to do originals, where as Apple whole setup is built around originals. A service needs that flagship absolute massive hit pretty early when they commit to originals so Apple need to find that reasonably quickly

 

[Wakey87433]

Ted Lasso is standout.

And why do they need to go broader with their content? Is that how art works?

I don't think it is, it's very much of the level of one of the niche network sitcoms (p&r for example) and is very hit or miss, you are either in that small group who love that kind of comedy or you will find it extremely unfunny. And even if you normally like that kind of comedy it can also very lazy which perhaps the US audience doesn't see but it can impact it badly internationally. It's not the big standout show that will both win awards and be almost universally loved. And this is coming from someone who had liked it.

As for why they need to go broader it's because they are a business. Streaming needs to keep people renewing every month which basically means giving each customer something to keep them around. If you have 20mill subs but each show only gets a million views you need 20 shows a month to keep people around and when they are expensive high brow shows its nigh on impossible to make a profit as Netflix found (even going broader they spend billions more than they make). You really need a cheaper broader contebt that keeps the majority of people around and then a a handful of prestige originals that are your award folly that is used to bring legitimacy to the service if you have any chance of it being financially viable

 

[cmaier]

I don't think it is, it's very much of the level of one of the niche network sitcoms (p&r for example) and is very hit or miss, you are either in that small group who love that kind of comedy or you will find it extremely unfunny. And even if you normally like that kind of comedy it can also very lazy which perhaps the US audience doesn't see but it can impact it badly internationally. It's not the big standout show that will both win awards and be almost universally loved. And this is coming from someone who had liked it.

As for why they need to go broader it's because they are a business. Streaming needs to keep people renewing every month which basically means giving each customer something to keep them around. If you have 20mill subs but each show only gets a million views you need 20 shows a month to keep people around and when they are expensive high brow shows its nigh on impossible to make a profit as Netflix found (even going broader they spend billions more than they make). You really need a cheaper broader contebt that keeps the majority of people around and then a a handful of prestige originals that are your award folly that is used to bring legitimacy to the service if you have any chance of it being financially viable

P&R niche? Really?

Sigh.

 

[Wakey87433]

P&R niche? Really?

Sigh.

P&R is massively niche. Only season 1 broke the top 100 broadcast shows each season. Compare that to say how I met your mother that spent nearly every season on the bubble but ranked between 70 and 25.