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Estimated arrival of Copy/Paste & Native MMS
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copy/paste and MMS and video recording + blluetooth will be in iphone 2nd GEN so they have a way for people to buy a new phone.
apple purposely left out features in the iphone from day 1. you can't sell millions of iphones if the first gen is perfect now can you?
adding copy/paste MSS and video would take a few days if apple really wanted to do it.
apple purposely left out features in the iphone from day 1. you can't sell millions of iphones if the first gen is perfect now can you?
adding copy/paste MSS and video would take a few days if apple really wanted to do it.
And good on them. Data is a flat rate, while SMS and MMS charges can vary. I'd rather have a flat rate data plan, have everyone using email to send large files around, and avoid all the confusion anyway.
Mobile data is not "flat rate plan" pretty much anywhere else in the world.
At least, not affordably.
Average Joes and Janes won't be getting data plans anytime soon, specially not for the average nokia or SE phone with tiny screen and crappy browsers. And let us not forget that the profile user of MMS is not a smartphone user, but rather a casual young user with a non-smartphone handset who likes to takes snapshots of funny stuff on the street and MMS it to their friends.
I'm 99% confident that mobile carriers can't stop begging apple to add MMS to their iPhone OS.
And it really makes no sense for Apple not to do so: the data infrastructure is already on the phone. MMS is nothing but another app that uses data to connect to a special server on your carrier's data network. Then it's pretty much like sending an email. It won't be that hard to implement, it won't hurt the iPhone in any way, and it will bring in more money for the carriers.
I'm going to take a guess and say that you've never done any software development.
1) MMS already uses "data bandwidth". SMS is really just used as a sideband "control channel". The media itself is served over WAP/HTTP.
2) Until push e-mail is as ubiquitous as SMS, carriers are going to keep expanding their SMSCs' capacity.
copy paste is so 80's. come on, chill out people, write down on a paper then transcribe again to the iphone it cannot be more simple.
i always felt that apple took the simple way.
i always felt that apple took the simple way.
iphone features may be easier to implement..
i'm guessing that you never done any software development. MMS are far easy to implement - to one person with the proper documentation in one week. Even UI rotations are cheap coding in iphone, so don't ask why apple only implemented this on safari, they can put all the comunity bitching about writing emails and sms in landscape mode and do anything for about one year.
The only advantage that apple have now is the OS. Nokia, samsung, et all can catch up iphone by hardware. Well they don't have a fluid animation layers, but indeed they try to squeeze all the potential of their plataform allowing people to personalize, store and install documents and apps. Also they got MMS.
i'm guessing that you never done any software development. MMS are far easy to implement - to one person with the proper documentation in one week. Even UI rotations are cheap coding in iphone, so don't ask why apple only implemented this on safari, they can put all the comunity bitching about writing emails and sms in landscape mode and do anything for about one year.
The only advantage that apple have now is the OS. Nokia, samsung, et all can catch up iphone by hardware. Well they don't have a fluid animation layers, but indeed they try to squeeze all the potential of their plataform allowing people to personalize, store and install documents and apps. Also they got MMS.
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C&P they are working on (or so they said), but any eta is pure guesswork. MMS is never going to happen, IMHO. I think apple has decided that email is the way to go, and isn't looking back on this one.
C&P they are working on (or so they said), but any eta is pure guesswork. MMS is never going to happen, IMHO. I think apple has decided that email is the way to go, and isn't looking back on this one.
Which, if this is apples way of thinking, is just sticking two fingers up at countries that dont have an alternative to MMS
Well done Apple, you are showing yet again how little you care for the uk owners
If that were true than average Joes and Janes wouldn't have smart phones, because they could never justify spending hundreds of dollars for a phone, and since you have to have a data plan with a smart phone (or to get one on contract) your point is moot.
If it's pretty much like sending an email, then the logic suggests one should just send an email. Keep in mind the MMS is mostly useful on phones that really don't have an adequate email API to start with. Apple has a great email API, so why bother throwing in MMS for the overlap?
Copy and paste:: Tuesday
MMS :: Hopefully never. Tell your friends to buy a real phone that can do email.
MMS :: Hopefully never. Tell your friends to buy a real phone that can do email.
I say that copy and paste will arrive on or around WWDC 2009. I don't think MMS will arrive until 2010.
Exactly!
Exactly!
Oh for Pete's sake (I can't believe I just wrote that), but Apple is a multi-Billion dollar company that employees some of the brightest developers in the world. They are professionals. We're not talking about a bunch of guys playing around in their parent's basement.
They have the brains, the man power, and best of all, the money to have MMS and cut n' paste developed within a few days.
For me, the problem wouldn't be so much sending MMS (Well... I may forward them), as I don't really send pictures, but receiving them would be really nice.
So far, all we have is the crappy View My Message, which sends you a tiny grainy version of what the original message was. Plus, 3/4 times the website takes 5+ times to log in. None of the aftermarket "MMS SOLUTIONS" being developed seem to tackle receiving MMS.
You'd love to thing that MMS would be great on the iPhone, with it's big screen and all.
So far, all we have is the crappy View My Message, which sends you a tiny grainy version of what the original message was. Plus, 3/4 times the website takes 5+ times to log in. None of the aftermarket "MMS SOLUTIONS" being developed seem to tackle receiving MMS.
You'd love to thing that MMS would be great on the iPhone, with it's big screen and all.
I would think it's quite the opposite actually. MMS is coming in 2 months tops (carrier approved 3rd party w. push notifications), but for C&P there's no telling. I don't think they are going to make it until at least iphone OS 3.0. It seems like a feature that's too big and difficult to implement. Maybe they have tried to implement it for the last year or so though?
Yeah, but they're basically the antithesis of this now. Good in some ways, unfortunate in others.
I've probably read the same things you have lately. But, I don't think it's going to happen. I guess I'll believe it when I see it. The thing is, I know for 100% certainty that 3rd MMS apps have been submitted to the store in the past, months ago, but we still don't have them. Perhaps Apple doesn't like these apps for other reasons and wants better implemented/professional ones. Who knows.
And where are the GPS apps? Don't they know people are going out now and buying stand alone devices for their loved ones when they could just be buying the iPhone mobile versions if they were out.
Were those apps approved by one of the partner carriers? I would think that this makes the difference. At least we should be able to get it on Telia's network. If other partner carriers give their blessing I don't see why it can't be approved for those regional/local app stores. The app would also serve the use of making it easier to connect to Telia's 'Homerun' Wifi hotspots around. The current implementation is retarded.
The reason for it to require the carriers blessing is becuase of them wanting to get paid for MMS'es sent. MMS needs setup settings from the carrier
Jeez, sorry guys. I'm merely in the market for a new phone. I've had my iPhone 2g for just over a year now. I bought it knowing the app store would be coming out in 2008 with productivity programs I need
Also at the time, there were talks of copy and paste, mms, as well as a2dp.
Now I'm fine without a2dp, but copy and paste are inexcusable.
So, seeing as I haven't really spent the time researching phones in a while, I wanted to get a rough time estimate for these features.
I cannot blame the curiosity. Who does not want to know? Problem is, no one will ever know *for sure* until the day it's released. Sure, there will be rumors, and no doubt the iPhoneHellas greek geeks (or geek Greeks) will announce a definite maybe (several times) before the magic update releases... But it'll be only a maybe.
It's just... all the forum posts about CP and MMS (of which I am also guilty), is like listening to your favorite Rush album 2,426 times nonstop. It doesn't help anything, and you *still* can't understand why Getty sounds like that.