The same way as on macOS, by doing it on the OS level.
Now, if someone goes into DFU mode and enables the amfi_get_out_of_my_way boot flag or whatever, that's on them, but 99.99% of people don't do that.
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Now, if someone goes into DFU mode and enables the amfi_get_out_of_my_way boot flag or whatever, that's on them, but 99.99% of people don't do that.
So, let's say, hypothetically, someone side loads a malicious app disguised as some sort of payment app that features Face ID and Tap To Pay. Upon first launch, it will ask for permission to use the Wallet (because it's disguised as a payment app), camera, and NFC. Naturally, the victim will agree and grant access. Done. Compromised.
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This gain full access to hardware will get tossed on appeals, along with a completely curtailed compromise long term.
Cite statistical breakdown for the past ten years or just stop making claims. I know no one on a Mac who even touches Chrome.
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Your claim should be focused on Firefox.
The whole damned thing should be tossed. It's a disaster.
Who will buy a crippled phone? Only the crazy, I guess. Apple can kiss its sales goodbye in the EU. It can also expect huge backlash in other areas for being greedy and acting like its Wild-Wild-West (I am above the laws of a nation kind of vibe).
Apple's two UK divisions pay just £9m in UK corporation tax
Apple paid just £9m in tax in the UK last year even as the tech giant weathered the pandemic to pull in sales of more than £1.1bn.
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Taking in consideration their UK sales, Yes, the difference in more than comfortable enough to call EU, Apple's second largest market.
No. They have rules designed to have it compete.
There can’t be a huge number of them in the U.S. then either, can it?
Apple’s market share in the US is roughly 50-60 percent AFAIK.
In Europe it‘s about half that lately (should be similar in the EU, when factoring in/out the UK and other non-EU European countries). That said, the EU‘s population is more than 100 million (about a third) higher than the US.
👉 In other words: that’s about two iPhones sold in the EU for every three they’re selling in the US.
Sure, I was lazy by not looking up the number of smartphones sold relative to population. But they’re definitively popular in Europe. It still is a huge number of phones they’re selling in Europe.
I fail to even remotely see a business case where giving up the EU market would make Apple better off overall than complying.
Doing huge profitable business is better than not.
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Well, it is a landslide victory for competing tech firms, that is for sure.
For consumers, though, there are some pros and some cons. There that balance will falls, has yet to be seen.
If that's the case , why does Meta complain about Apple privacy direction (hit of a few billions a quarter mind you) , why did Apple even needs to do anything if Meta are not allowed to track you and they are following the rules ?
Its because the EU cannot really enforce it on the developers end , if the developers are allowed , they will abuse your information as they do today with every ounce of their being.
Sure in a world where everyone plays by the rules I will have no problem with developers having full access to my HW , but as we can see , that's never the case , we have rules that dont allow soliciting , but its still nice to get features that block them , as the rules are not followed , we have rules against tracking us as you pointed out , but its great that Apple enforce them on the technology level as much as they can and not rely on the EU to do it , I have a hard time imagining a big EU department with the mandate of looking for foul play in our apps.
Again , my only point against the EU is the fact it looks like it tries to help developers more then it does the users , in the end of all those regulations you will have the consumer credit card , geolocation , spending habits , usage models all in the developers hands to monetize , that is the end game of all of this , can it also make the user app be a bit cheaper , maybe , I dont believe it , but maybe , lets hope it turns out for the better and the EU can also follow up with some restrictions on developers that can be enforced (dont think they will ever be able to do so , but lets hope).
Again , developers are not my friends , Apple at least are monetizing the fact that the developers are trying to abuse me and they offer me protection and privacy features , I understand its not altruism on their part , that's how they make more sales to ppl who care , but in that transaction we both gain something , if iOS becomes more like Android It would be a sad day , we would have less choice then we have today , same thing with a different skin.
We are in the middle of a war on who is the boss of the mobile eco system (and tech as a whole) , is it the platform owner ,is it the developers or is it the governments , there is no consumer in this battle , that one was never an option.
You were trying to be deceitful, no question about it.
I quote you again: That’s quite a little revenue source Brussels has set up for themselves.
You suggested EU made so it can get 20% of Apple's global revenue and this simply isn't true.
You didn't pay attention to what I wrote the same way you didn't pay attention to the article at the beginning.
It's: up to 10 percent of the company's total worldwide. or 20 percent in the event of repeated infringements.
If Apple constantly breaks the law, heck it would be fair to fine the with even more than 20%, maybe even outright kick the out of the market.
So Brussels hasn't set up for themselves any new revenue sources.
Also in the article at the beginning it says: total worldwide annual turnover.
That most likely means January to December earnings not something that includes both 2021 and 2022 so the $365.8B is indeed correct.
My guess is that if Apple introduce changes for the new regulations, they will just do it for all countries in Europe, regardless of EU membership. I hope you are right though, perhaps Brexit will give us an unintended benefit ...
Europe and EU aren't the same. UK is 20-25% of Apple's European revenue, which means the EU market is less important for Apple than China. There's also much more growth potential.
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If only they used it and if they only had first-party software, there would be no problem. However, they are selling those phones to the public. They are getting software from third parties and selling it on their platforms. There is the rub. The EU has to ensure that the rights of the public that buy the phones and the developers who sell their software are protected. I think it is fair.
It isn't an upgrade to SMS. SMS exists on the paging line that connects your phone to the tower. That's right, it's a page. Like the old pagers. Like the old texting two-way pagers deaf people had in the late 90s and early 00s. It inherently exists. It will always exist. If you have a phone signal, you have SMS capability. To see carriers charge for it to this day is actually quite hilarious because of how necessary it is to exist just so you have a phone connection. RCS is data, an instant message. It can be set up with a different identifier if the Google overlords so chose to do so. It does not rely on a mobile network and operates off network.
No. They are punishing success and handicapping them because the competition were unable to come up with anything good on their own.