it is really crazy decision....but I think APPLE should charge for the EU iPhone user for the iOS installed in each iPhone....let it be
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EU Approves Landmark Legislation to Regulate Apple and Other Big Tech Firms
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This has to be the dumbest **** I've ever read.
The death to WebKit. Music to my ears! Finally!
There are sooo many good aspects to this landmark ruling.
Too bad there isn’t a provision to allow a 3rd party developer to create a default Photos App too.
There are sooo many good aspects to this landmark ruling.
Too bad there isn’t a provision to allow a 3rd party developer to create a default Photos App too.
If they all did this, they'd cave and drop all of this BS.
I don't want my metrics collected at all, let alone shared with competitors....
It's pretty clear this isn't about trying to undermine Apple and Google to boost European competitors (although that would be nice), but rather about curbing the vast power and reach tech platforms enjoy as a simple byproduct of the network effects of their businesses.
Now, whether or not the EU's laws and regulations are the right ones is up for debate (and personally, I have some major doubts about them).
wow sounds like a LOT of work for Apple in the next 12 months. Some stuff I agree with, others like sharing data with competitors is a little crazy no? Unless it is really just specific to data of their own app. Why should Google be able to demand for example usage data of Apple Maps to Google. I am working in the parking sector. I would LOVE to know the parking data of our competitors. Obviously that is not going to happen. Why should it be an open book in this case
I think you got it backwards. If they all left EU, they'd lose a third of their annual revenue. In some cases more. They wouldn't be the same companies after that.
While something perhaps needed to be done, this is a rather huge over-reach that will very likely reduce security & privacy as well as hinder technological advancement.
One big fat grey area - when is something a feature and when is it an app?
If Apple stops selling on the EU market because of this, the EU will topple down in an instant.
- Give developers access to all existing HW features , to secure elements ?
EU , please , I am trying to give developers LESS Access to my HW , I dont want them to know where I am , listen to what I do , see what im looking at , now you want them to be able to access secure elements ? why ?
Developers are not my friends , they will create new stores to sell my info to others , they will use **** payment system to get more money and again share my details , I dont want them to have more access , I want them to have LESS.
People don't need to write if they are in EU or in the USA when commenting on items like these, you can see it from their replies.
This will absolutely kill privacy. End to end encryption doesn't matter if you are required to give the keys to anyone who wants them to be "interoperable" and then share everyones data you have on them to boot.
You are aware of the GDPR which protects you from these things that you mention?
And now, the ball is in Apple’s court to see how they can best meet the letter of the law while giving up as little power as possible.
It will be fun to watch. Apple has had some time to work this out, I don’t believe they don’t have a trick or two up their sleeve.
It will be fun to watch. Apple has had some time to work this out, I don’t believe they don’t have a trick or two up their sleeve.
The thing I don't understand about the interoperable messaging feature is that iOS and Android already have a messaging interoperability layer - it's called the OS.
The operating system already translates all your messages into text and images, just inside their apps.
I can't help but think that what we need is not a new interoperability standard but rather a unified inbox (like Windows Phone used to have that collected all your messages from Skype, SMS, etc into one place).
The interoperability tech is already here. We just need a new front end, i.e. a unified inbox.
The operating system already translates all your messages into text and images, just inside their apps.
I can't help but think that what we need is not a new interoperability standard but rather a unified inbox (like Windows Phone used to have that collected all your messages from Skype, SMS, etc into one place).
The interoperability tech is already here. We just need a new front end, i.e. a unified inbox.
The idea is that third party apps need to be allowed to use NFC for their apps (like their banking aps) and not just use Apple Pay, not that Tinder is going to listen to you in your sleep.
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Forcing interoperability between messaging platforms it's actually a good thing.
I can finally start using iMessage and use Messages to chat with my whatsapp contacts, and delete whatsapp...
I can finally start using iMessage and use Messages to chat with my whatsapp contacts, and delete whatsapp...
Not sure how soon this is supposed to take effect, but Apple will most certainly leave the market - at least temporarily. They are asking for a product that Apple does not currently make and presumably will not soon. They may not even want to make this product right now. In the end I suspect Apple will use their older tech to make models for the EU based on an inherently different build of IOS. So they most certainly will comply, but will they give EU the good stuff or the SE-type stuff?
The EU will probably not get iPhone 14 then since its release date would be post-legislation.
The EU will probably not get iPhone 14 then since its release date would be post-legislation.
Imagine the resources they would need to implement all of those criteria.
Yeah that one worries me.
Can we really have a "secure" element if EVERY developer has access to it?
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Why? The standard is already there, RCS. If every app must comply to RCS, you have interoperability. Of course iMessage would have exclusive and richer features, but at least some of them like read receipt, groups, file sharing... are supported