A better analogy would be that the EU crafted laws forcing Honda to accept Toyota parts in all its vehicles because Honda has an “alleged” monopoly on the distribution of the accord.
And sure apples response is unknown at this point.
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And sure apples response is unknown at this point.
A better one would be what we currently have.
Honda are prevented from making Toyota compatible parts incompatible.
Honda is prevented stopping Toyota for selling HONDA compatible parts and services.
Honda and Toyota is prevented from stopping other shops from selling Honda parts etc etc
An even better one are regulations forcing car manufacturers to build completely open chassis so that consumers could fasten engines, brakes for free.
Well… we can already do that. I can buy a car and install whatever engine or brakes I want. For free with my own labor.
The car modification space is very large. People even takes other cars and install Tesla batteries and engines etc in them.
Well you really can't, because then you are on the hook for what breaks and it's up to your ingenuity to make it happen. The same as a phone.
That's not a good analogy, especially since neither Honda nor Toyota are part of a duopoly.
I’m curious, what share of the automobile market does the Accord have? Follow up question, is it one of only two available vehicles?
Since there’s quite a bit more than two car manufacturers splitting the market between and for customers to choose from, the analogy is off the mark.
Edit: oops, must have missed webkit’s reply above.
Since the EU isn’t forcing anyone to build “completely open” chassis or cars, the analogy doesn’t fit either.
Can consumers change their care tires for free? Yes. And though I’m sure some of them would prefer tires distributed by the car manufacturer (side note: they can choose from third-party tires as well.
👉 After all, car tires don’t need to be cryptographically signed by the car manufacturer in order to be installed and run.
PS: to keep with the analogy, the carmaker wouldn’t even make the tires themselves - they’d just sell Michelin, Continental or Goodyear tires at a 30% commission. And claim “it’s the only way to make sure our car is safe!”. Though they are exactly the same tires that the tire company would like to sell directly.
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not at all. Parts I buys still have warranty, if I buy a car and changes the engine I still have warranty one the car and all the parts I didn’t change. Breaks are standardized meaning any off the shelves breaks are approved.
A can take my car to a car inspector to verify it’s still street legal.
Same thing with apple’s liquid stickers aren’t able to disqualify your warranty rights, opening up your device doesn’t hangs the warranty you have etc etc
Let's make sure the same is true for the smartphone operating system market then. If we fix the *actual* problem everything else disappears.
I’m sure the people on hondarumors.com would scream:
“If you don’t like it, just use a Toyota instead!
Honda made that car - they deserve to be compensated for their IP!
I chose Honda for their walled garden and if you force their cars to make other tires installable, you deny me my choice!
It will make Honda cars less safe!
Honda should really withdraw from the EU!”
“If you don’t like it, just use a Toyota instead!
Honda made that car - they deserve to be compensated for their IP!
I chose Honda for their walled garden and if you force their cars to make other tires installable, you deny me my choice!
It will make Honda cars less safe!
Honda should really withdraw from the EU!”
This doesn't make any sense. Honda has never put restrictions on what tyres can be installed.
Well Tesla did say who can use their chargers. And guess who is going to be forced to allow competitors to use their charging network.
We should expect the same freedoms we have with our cars as to be the same for our phones
We should expect the same freedoms we have with our cars as to be the same for our phones
I think that information is probably freely available. But Honda does have 100% of the Honda market. 100% of the Honda engine market, etc.
Well it does. If you open the phone and you break it, Apple is not liable. Same as for cars.
Apple isn't part of a smartphone duopoly either. There must be literally dozens of cell phone manufacturers.
Apple are only part of a duopoly on the software front because they are the only manufacturer making their own operating system for their devices. Without Apple and iOS, google would have a monopoly. That tells you everything you need to know about where the problem is.
I think more the issue is that the EU doesn't want US tech companies to be able to dictate policy on their devices that are for sale in the EU. And while there are technically more than two operating systems on cell phones, google and qualcomm makes it convenient for the dozens of cell phone manufacturers to put together a phone and slap on an operating system. That Apple is so popular is indeed the issue.
The horizontal business model needs to be eradicated, it only ever seems to lead to a reduction in competition.
Ok. How much of the automobile market does Honda have? Does the market consist of only Honda and one other competitor?
Such a move would simply render the hardware side as consolidated and lacking in competition as the software side. Instead of fixing anything, you’ve simply made the existing problem worse.
No, because the market has shown over the course of decades that the market will only support a couple of software paradigms. The ones chosen will be the ones with the applications, which Apple and Google already have.