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If governments are concerned about E-Waste then they should introduce a law that requires the manufacturers of products to accept returns of their products so they can be put to E-waste. The company should be forced to produce an E-Waste products returns label that consumers can contact the company and request. The consumer then sends the product to the company for them to dispose of because the problem is, once the product is made, the manufacturer goes 'not my concern any more'. Well it should be their concern, they made it, they should be forced to E-waste it.
You mean WEEE?
 
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Sometimes the EU just comes across as the ultimate cartel. All you hear about is them fining companies and taking them to court. Seem to have been pretty busy with this during the pandemic. You need to recoup funds somehow I guess. But in all honesty forcing companies to move to a standard seems like a bit of an overreach.
 
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And actually although it's often misreported, the EU didn't previously try to standardise on Micro-USB - the proposal was a charger either had to have a permanently attached cable terminating with a Micro-USB male plug, or it could simply be the charger (without cable) with a USB-A female socket.
The misreporting, then, is that the EU tried to standardize on TWO different technologies that have been superseded, instead of just one.
 
Sometimes the EU just comes across as the ultimate cartel. All you hear about is them fining companies and taking them to court. Seem to have been pretty busy with this during the pandemic. You need to recoup funds somehow I guess. But in all honesty forcing companies to move to a standard seems like a bit of an overreach.
I'm no fan of the EU, but if you left it to the corporates to sort out amongst themselves, how much do you think consumer's, environmental and other non-commercial interests would be recognised in the final outcome?
 
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This would be fantastic! Absolutely stupid and unnecessary that everything is moving to USB C, including Apples iPads and Computers (of which they all are now USB C bar the cheapest iPad), but their phones are lagging behind.

Annoying too that to use my iPad and iPhone with wired headphones, requires two different dongles!
 
As much as I would want iPhone to have USB-C I hope this never gets through. Imagine if they did this when micro-USB was the standard. We would have been stuck with that forever. At some point we will get a connector that's even better than USB-C but this legislation would not allow any new standard to be used.
They did and Apple had to add a USB to 30pin adapter for EU iPhones.
 
If governments are concerned about E-Waste then they should introduce a law that requires the manufacturers of products to accept returns of their products so they can be put to E-waste. The company should be forced to produce an E-Waste products returns label that consumers can contact the company and request. The consumer then sends the product to the company for them to dispose of because the problem is, once the product is made, the manufacturer goes 'not my concern any more'. Well it should be their concern, they made it, they should be forced to E-waste it.

Atleast where i live (north europe) stores are obliged to take back electronic devices when you buy new. Also we have periodically e-waste collectors around the city where people can drop off their e-waste for free…
 
What if this legislation had been successful 10 years ago and micro USB was the standardized connector? It’d all suck.
Now I would fight that tooth and nail! Micro USB is the worst connector of all time. And SOOOO much crap comes with it!

Even Mini USB was better.
 
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What if this legislation had been successful 10 years ago and micro USB was the standardized connector? It’d all suck.
It was, up to a point... that's why Apple had to start bundling micro USB adapters in the EU. They'd just have updated the legislation when USB-C came along -- completely new standards with no backwards compatibility don't come along that often.
 
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The law will stifle innovation, not because Apple will be deprived of profits, but because all consumer electronics will be beholden to a standard that will be outdated in 10 years. This is a power grab and the reasoning being used for it is convenience and climate change. What a weak argument. Why not regulate the cables and require that they undergo endurance testing to last 10 years? Or better yet, why not ban cables and go fully wireless? Isn’t the problem cable waste?

Are they seriously going to spend time having policy meetings on communications standards and consumer electronic accessories? Can you imagine a room of politicians blowing out opinions and hot air about phones and cables? I think some have this idealized view “no more electronic waste” or connector convenience, but the reality is that the next innovative technology will need political approval. Your goods will cost more and arrive later than expected because of regulation and government bribery (aka lobbying and campaign contributions).

I’m not saying I prefer multiple cables, but there is also a small side benefit: resilience to attacks. When the entire world is on one standard and that standard has known (and possibly unpatchable) flaws, you have quite a serious predicament. On the other hand, a diversity of standards lowers the chances of outright destruction or disruption. I wouldn’t use this as my primary argument, but nevertheless it’s a real benefit (at the expense of convenience).
 
What I would love to see: Apple "comply" with this, by semi-permanently attaching a Lightning-to-USB-C "nipple" on the bottom end of iPhones sold in the EU. You'd have a little pokey out of the bottom that one could remove with some effort. Of course it would look ridiculous. But hey EU, you asked for it.
 
I'd love to understand what innovation hasn't been stifled by remaining on the lightning connector! I mean, the lightning connector is everywhere isn't it? I can even use my lightning connected EarPods with my lightning connector provisioned MacBook Pro!

the lightning connector is literally only in the Apple ecosystem. Just think about USB sticks, Keyboards, USB C / hdmi, headphones, etc.
 
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