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EU Reaches Agreement to Force iPhone and AirPods to Adopt USB-C by Fall 2024
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It would be completely asinine if everyone who wants wireless charging has to carry their wireless charger around with them.
It makes much sense that the wireless charger (the puck) has a cable fitted with USB-C (or a USB-C socket). Going for wireless charging just displaces the USB-C interface one step further away.
Far more sense if all wireless charging pucks have sufficient commonality that they work for any phone. (Maybe some high performance options are not always available.) Or any device that can be wirelessly charged. (Even allow a dual standard where the single, common puck can support charging either phones or watches.)
I'd actually like it if USB-C were formally extended to allow a connection similar to the new MBP-stye Magsafe. There are several proprietary implementations which could be considered as a start point.
I’d rather vote Apple to remove this ugly port at all! Wi-Fi charge or Pad charge. That’s the future. Please Apple remove charging port!
Yes.. People can find a way to be upset at literally everything, all the time, no matter what
That much is clear
Apple already supports the Qi wireless standard in both their phones and iPhone MagSafe chargers.
So what happens when a new superior port/connector comes out? Do we wait for the EU to agree to its use?
Ah, people back then HATED the Micro USB connector--it was too physically fragile. I really disliked using that connector when I had a Samsung Galaxy S III phone. USB Type C connectors, especially the current production ones, are far more physically reliable.
Actually, there is actually three standards for USB Type C connectors: Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.0, Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.2 Gen 2, and Thunderbolt 4/USB4. There's supposed to be an upgraded Thunderbolt 4/USB 4 connector that supports 240 watt charging, but we may not see that on laptops until 2023. I believe the most common USB Type C cable is Thunderbolt 3/USB 3.2 Gen 2 nowadays.
Apple has a history of helping to create open-standard connectors; DisplayPort, FireWire, and USB-C are the most notable examples.
They could always fine multi-nationals for not adhering to some requirement drafted for that very purpose.
One incentive is that it's "good for their customers"
It's ok for corporations to do things that are simply helpful and nice to have for their clients you know...
Kuods to headline author for emphasizing force. Thats what politicians and bureaucrats do....they force us to do things that we dont want and the market doesn't want because they get paid off, it makes them feel good, or it buys votes. This is just another example.
Surely Apple would rush to adopt the new port if it weren’t for those pesky EU regulations.
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In my opinion, the arguments for it must be pushed by a personal vendetta or special interests. The only possible user base that benefits from this are people that switch between Android and iPhone. And I'm guessing that user base is pretty small. I'm guessing the user base that's loyal to iPhone is probably much larger than the switchers. And they are forcing that user base to replace chargers and cables as soon as they get a new phone thus causing all that waste they claim to want to eliminate. Otherwise, that "loyal" user base wouldn't have caused all that waste.
Compare that to the USB-C user base which will have to switch chargers when the next great port comes out. So the EU just forced all this waste with the existing loyal iPhone base. Did anyone do an actual analysis to show that this legislation actually saves any waste in the long-run given that I believe the "loyal" user bases on either side far exceed the switching user base.
Compare that to the USB-C user base which will have to switch chargers when the next great port comes out. So the EU just forced all this waste with the existing loyal iPhone base. Did anyone do an actual analysis to show that this legislation actually saves any waste in the long-run given that I believe the "loyal" user bases on either side far exceed the switching user base.
Or maybe it is the nature of having many standards that produces the best outcome. But it unknown and unknowable so assuming that less standards is "better" is just a fantasy. Odds are given the natural outcomes we see is that it is worse.
Who is paying off the politicians to enforce "USB-C everywhere"?
That argument would make more sense if it was going the opposite direction and in favor of a company like Apple
I don‘t like the EU regulation but Apple is the one to blame here. A standard like USB-C is created by the industry and many different companies. Maybe next time Apple joins and then the EU won‘t disagree to switch to a new standard.
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Having "many standards" is sort of the opposite of having standards
(especially in this case where there's one obvious choice and one outlier from one company)
Who?
Name some names please
You think someone has a personal vendetta or that there are special interest groups pushing "USB-C"
(so that we can all enjoy interoperable chargers and cables?)
This reminds me of when folks accuse vegetarians or vegans interests of pushing their narratives with regulators
I'm always like -- who is the money behind "big broccoli" or "the rice and beans lobby"?
Yes. The rest of the world gets this new superior connector first and the EU stagnates from a tech innovation point of view. That's what is going to happen, imo.
Yup nailed it.
I have a Dell Precision 5550 I am lumbered with still and it’s like riding an angry hippo on a hot day to hell. At least the T470 was better than that.
A more correct comparison would be requring them to use a standardized power plug
Consumers tend to like when things just "work" and don't require endless specialized (and expensive) unique connectors.