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I recall seeing an article that suggested this transaction might actually take place in Ireland where both Apple and Beats have significant portions of their business.

Yes, and there's an Apple Retail Germany GmbH and an iTunes corporation registered in Luxembourg. Apple is a global corporation on all levels, and will be subject to global legislation and regulations.
 
Just acquired the name if nothing else, if possible. The headphones are utter crap.

Actually, the Beats Pro product is quite nice - good feel, good sound, quality feel. Just no better than products half or even a third the price.

But, yeah, anything with the horrible Beats 'sound enhancement' is garbage - buy some basic Sennheisers for half the money and be done with it.
 
Oh so should apple get regulatory approval from every country they operate in? That argument doesn't even make sense. Why should the EU have greater authority over mergers of foreign companies than any other entity?

From the article:

Besides the EU, regulators in the United States also must examine the deal and determine whether there are any concerns with competition.

I think they famously made some restrictions on the distribution of Explorer in Windows for anti competitive reasons, just to give an example.

Plus, I can't even begin to imagine how this could get denied.... They are in vastly different fields. The closest is iTunes to Beats Music, but Beats Music is tiny, tiny.

Exactly.
 
I dont understand... If USA allows the merger and EU does not, what does that mean? Does that mean the merger cannot take place? or does Apple take over all of Beats EXCEPT for its EU division?

If the merger cannot take place without the consent of the EU, does that mean ANY country can veto a merge? Who gets to decide if a certain governing body has the right to veto? Can Vanuatu (pop. ~225,000 or 0.003% of the world pop) veto a merge?

If Apple takes over Beats everywhere except the EU, does beats turn into a european company? Can they never sell their headsets outside the EU? I would think the only way to sell beats outside the EU would be for them to create brand new headphones that circumvent US patent laws and also create a new brand name. It essentially would be a death wish for beats... which, in my opinion, would defeat the purpose of blocking the merger in the first place.
 
Buying Beats is so stupid that it defies belief. Apple under Cook is worse than Apple under Steve.

For 3 000 000 000 dollars Apple can make their own brand of headphones or music service or whatever twice over.

I sold my AAPL when Steve died, I am not sorry seeing where this is heading.

Down.

Actually they probably can't. Remember Ping? Mobile Me? Until recently iCloud was anaemic junk.

You would have thought too that Google + would have had Facebook beat in two minutes flat given Google's might. But it's now a flop that pollutes other Google offerings as they flog the dead horse.

Beats streaming had a pretty decent launch and the headphones (either junky, overpriced, often both) have been a massive success, convincing the youth market, that probably spent $30 on headphones pre-Beats, to spend $300. And that's one thing that set US capitalism apart from, say, European capitalism - 'good marketing' of a crap product is respected rather than cynically written off as a sort of fraud.
 
I dont understand... If USA allows the merger and EU does not, what does that mean?

It means that Apple will get a list of requirements that they will need to fulfill, or promise to have fulfilled before some posted date. Failure to do so would lead to either fines or possible ban on Apple products and services in the EU.

And yes, obviously any country can do the same. China being a prime example of banning several very common and popular products and/or services from the west due to "non-compliance". It is then up to Apple to decide if they care that they are being banned from the Vanuatuan market or not.
 
I don't see it will really effecting anything. While they have a majority of declining download sales, streaming is more a service that has been well established way before Apple came along.

Its probably just a routine check.

Of course it is a routine check :rolleyes:

But Apple buying their way into a market and using their weight to squash out other competitors can be an anti-competitive move and something the EU will examine.
 
Oh my, there's as much botox being used by participants in this picture as a Hollywood premiere!
 
Yeah, I'm sure bad headphones are worse than racists propagating their hate. Nothing is compelling you to run out and grab a pair of these "muddy mess" headsets, so I'm not sure why you care. I don't. Derail elsewhere.



I don't have the time of day to view the posting history of a racist. The comment I read in this post was, end of story.
Huh? How is it racist to call someone out on advocating murdering someone of a particular race?

Seriously, that is just wrong and Apple should indeed be ashamed of themselves for giving an executive role to someone who has done this.

I don't care what race might have been used, it is wrong no matter what to do such things. Yet, that is exactly why this new Apple Executive has done.
 
Actually, the Beats Pro product is quite nice - good feel, good sound, quality feel. Just no better than products half or even a third the price.

But, yeah, anything with the horrible Beats 'sound enhancement' is garbage - buy some basic Sennheisers for half the money and be done with it.

I use this. Shure SE846's with the Sony PHA-1 and custom ear inserts and Oxygen Free Copper cables. The Shures sound better than the FitEar ToGo 334's in my opinion.
 

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I love it. Comcast can buy Time Warner and create the biggest oligarchy in the U.S., yet the EU needs to decide on Apple's acquisition of Beats.

Something's wrong with the U.S.
 
Why are EU regulators worried about such a crappy deal?

It's the law. Why it made the headlines is the actual question here.

EDIT: The EU dictates that whenever there's a merger/acquisition where the compound revenue is over 5 billion and the revenue from business within the union is more than 250 million an approval is required.
 
I dont understand... If USA allows the merger and EU does not, what does that mean? Does that mean the merger cannot take place? or does Apple take over all of Beats EXCEPT for its EU division?

If the merger cannot take place without the consent of the EU, does that mean ANY country can veto a merge? Who gets to decide if a certain governing body has the right to veto? Can Vanuatu (pop. ~225,000 or 0.003% of the world pop) veto a merge?

If Apple takes over Beats everywhere except the EU, does beats turn into a european company? Can they never sell their headsets outside the EU? I would think the only way to sell beats outside the EU would be for them to create brand new headphones that circumvent US patent laws and also create a new brand name. It essentially would be a death wish for beats... which, in my opinion, would defeat the purpose of blocking the merger in the first place.

If the EU Commission rejects a merger then (I'm not a lawyer so don't quote me) the European operations of the two companies cannot merge. However, the EU is such a large market that failing to get EU approval can cause the two companies to call the merger off completely rather than attempt to create a complex (and costly) set up of subsidiaries to abide by any veto.

For instance, Honeywell and General Electric called off the merger after the EU rejected it whilst at the same time the U.S. approved of it.

http://money.cnn.com/2001/07/03/europe/ge_eu/
 
Steve's Apple is officially no more, looking at this picture with Tim next to Apple’s newest executive, who's been recorded multiple times advocating the murder of white people, domestic abuse, rape and objectification of women, illegal drug use, violence towards the gay community, and unwarranted, illegal gun violence.

We do miss you, Steve, badly.
Umm.....Steve Jobs also had a shady past prior to starting Apple involving illegal drugs and ripping off other people. Not to mention he was a terrible father with his first daughter and that was after he started Apple. Besides, what Dr. Dre did (aside from his actual illegal activities) was nothing more than entertainment. But you know what? People grow up. Steve Jobs became a respectable businessman and a better father while Dre moved away from the shadier side of the music business to become a successful producer and businessman.

Let's also not forget that Dr. Dre was one of the first people who got to see an early version of the iTunes store. Who was it that showed him iTunes? It was Steve Jobs.
 
Because god forbid that a private company allocate their capital in the way that they think would best benefit them and therefore their customers. At least I'm not paying for that mess too... :rolleyes:

Maybe you come from a planet where companies always do what is best for their customers first and themselves next, but on this Earth prices *always* go up when there is only one vendor for a given product with no substitutes. How is that good for customers? In addition innovation goes out the door in these situations.

The European Union might be a bureaucratic monstrosity, but Kroes' (you probably haven't heard of her, but she was in charge of these things) efforts have improved situations and for example helped in drastically reducing mobile roaming prices.

It looks very much like you do not know what you are talking about.
 
Apple and Beats are both American companies, why the **** is eurpe involved in this at all?

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Because it's a global company that also operates in the EU? My guess though is that nothing will come of this because there are several other digital music providers.

if they try breaking up the merger I hope Apple completely pulls their products from europe :D

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Yes, yes. The world only exists from NY to California...

You're goddamn right it does, **** the commies.

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Why is the NSA sticking its big nose into European email, cloud data, etc.?

Because the other 4 countries in 5 eyes are european...
 
I thought it was two companies from the United States merging ?


You thought wrong, then. It's one huge global conglomerate with several subsidiaries in Europe acquiring another large international company.
 
I love it. Comcast can buy Time Warner and create the biggest oligarchy in the U.S., yet the EU needs to decide on Apple's acquisition of Beats.

Something's wrong with the U.S.

Since when did Time Warner and Comcast become global oil companies?
 
Why are the Europeans sticking their big noses into an American merger? This is bureaucracy gone far too far!

Big noses? Didn't the US just fine a French bank $10 billion for banned transactions that didn't take place between US companies nor occur in the US just because they took place in dollars. This is a global economy.
 
Since when did Time Warner and Comcast become global oil companies?

ol·i·gar·chy noun \ˈä-lə-ˌgär-kē, ˈō-\
: a country, business, etc., that is controlled by a small group of people

: the people that control a country, business, etc.

: government or control by a small group of people

What does the oil industry have to do with Comcast now owning 75%+ of the cable market in the United States? They don't have a monopoly, but they do have an oligarchy, with more lobbyists thus control thus dictating policy (ex. internet censorship, price gauging, control of available media, etc) :)
 
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