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EU Right to Repair Rules Force Companies to Fix Out-of-Warranty Devices
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Why? I see gazillions of photos on Instagram when they buy something in India and make shots of the process. Friends, families. I never saw pets indeed. Why do they do that in India? 🤦♂️
Seems like Samsung has taken the lead on the race to the bottom with respect to right to repair. It was a challenge but Samsung appears to make Apple look good with regards to right to repair
www.theverge.com
The Samsung right-to-repair story just got worse
Repair shops may be giving Samsung your personal info.
www.theverge.com
That is, if you believe in whatever Verge writes. 😏Seems like Samsung has taken the lead on the race to the bottom with respect to right to repair. It was a challenge but Samsung appears to make Apple look good with regards to right to repair
The Samsung right-to-repair story just got worse
Repair shops may be giving Samsung your personal info.
It happened to me too, that user is downvoting just to be against EU...
Supranationals are inevitable. The current isolationism trend will end very quickly once the climate starts to spiral further out of control. Global problems require global solutions. I could see Oceania forming up. Maybe the African states too.
You're absolutely right. So many products are designed to fail after a certain period of time. Ending that bullsh*t practice would be tremendous.
Now wait a minute...! Are you suggesting that companies producing said products should settle for less sale and profit? That's outrageous! It's anti-capitalism and will be the end of the civilised world! No... we need to produce even more trash that people don't need or that they have to buy again in 3 months so we can keep those wheels spinning...
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No of course you're right. As example I just had (another) visit from my plumber this morning. My 10 year old heating unit needs yet another repair. Turns out the manufactor decided to cheap out on the quality of o-rings, saving a single cent on each. It will leak and needs repair on a yearly basis. And it all sorts of parts in it failing. So far I have spent 30% of the original price of the unit on repairs and that's before the bill I will receive soon. The old unit (made in 1984) lasted 30 years without any issues.
Yep. I know engineers that work for a number of big companies, that have each seen evidence of deliberate failure being built it. Boilers that are built from poorer materials than years ago, EV's designed to be harder than necessary to repair when they fail surprisingly early- almost impossible, in fact, dishwashers and washing machine designs altered because they were lasting too long, cabling and pipe work in commercial and residential construction that could be far far better for mere cents, etc...
The EU Commission knows about that, and certain legislation will be there in there in the near future (maybe some are already there), and there will be tough fines. This should also go for deliberate obsoleting still very good devices by blocking OS upgrades to them.
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you can probably buy products that last for many years, they’ll just cost a lot more money up front. Look at Miele, Apple etc as examples.
That’s going downhill as well. Miele vacuum. Lid to accessories won’t open. The telescope tube is stuck. Happened 3 months after the two years warranty expired. And my boiler mentioned above is from a company that used to be well known for their decades of durability. Still have some of their old valves from the 70’s and they work.
It’s close to a natural law. As long as there’s extra profit in “optimizing” manufacturing costs more and more companies will pursue that.
I love a bunch of my Apple products, but they certainly haven't historically survived longer than products purchased from other decent PC manufacturers...
We weren't talking exclusively about bargain basement stuff above. I don't wish to name the companies my friends work for, but they're all higher end companies... I dread to think how bad many low end boilers/washers/dryers/dishwashers are...
Also, look at clothing these days. A $10 t-shirt costs maybe 15 cents to produce in China and will probably be junk quality. The "good" quality t-shirt we pay $40 for probably costs 20 cents to make in China. Manufacturing is astonishingly cheap, as are raw materials for so many products. Even still, penny pinching (optimizing) is worse than ever.
Of course.
Especially a corporation like Apple who would never factor this into regional pricing. I’m sure local laws and red tape have nothing to do with Apple products being more expensive in some countries.
It is good that the Americans think that way, that China produces junk quality stuff. Undermining your economic business partner is usually results in disaster. Apple products are also manufactured in China, by the way.
If manufacturing is astonishingly cheap, why can't the US produce all those technological products in the USA?
I think what was meant was that it’s cheap in China (or India/other Asian country).
The irony is that if salaries and worker conditions for people making these products were to meet western standards, then far less would be able to buy the products without the manufacture (eg Apple, H&M etc) taking a huge profit loss.
I quite understand what that meant. Let the Americans think that way, even Brazil, South Africa etc will be going forward much faster. Undermining others by the US is a known fact.
The world is round, so the west is from where one stands. The west from Seattle is Shanghai. No city in the US, or in the so-called West can match that. There are so many such cities in China. They have all those so-called Western top brands out there. Western media is quite good at propaganda, to keep the "western" people believing in such "salaries and worker conditions for people making these products were to meet western standards," nonsense.
You missed the point, completely. China manufactures junk and it manufactures high quality goods, and everything in between. I was pointing out the incredibly tiny cost difference between a bad t-shirt and a very good one. It's incredibly minimal, yet those pennies are still saved.
I don’t want to engage in a conversation on splitting hairs. You know I am referring to the “western hemisphere”. Is it a weird concept on a globe? Yes. But it makes the conversation easier. You’re making it harder.
I didn't miss the point at all. USA also manufactures junk and high quality goods. And, undermining your economic business partner is usually results in disaster.
Have you ever been to Chinese factories, or to a sweat shop in the "West?"
Missed the point completely VS choosing to believe I said something I didn't. Call it what you will.
Your "West" ramblings are also incoherent.
Edit: I've actually lived and worked in China, and know many people involved in buying goods from there. The unnecessary penny pinching in production really bugs me- our goods don't need to be specced so poorly just to save someone a couple of cents.