It's only obvious now that Apple did it. No way in a million years would anyone else have come up with a similar design on their own. Good thing it's an open standard!Looks like the nano SIM basically just eliminated the plastic edges around the metal part, why didn't they do that to begin with?
Well, that's apparently what they're doing.I highly doubt official carriers for the iphone would "stockpile" new sim card designs without word from Apple.
Because most countries outside the US arent dependant on ridiculously priced subsidised plans.Can anyone explain why we actually have sim cards rather than some kind of internal chip? Would it not be easier to have a built in chip which just gets registered with whatever carrier you go with?
You misunderstood his post.Because most countries outside the US arent dependant on ridiculously priced subsidised plans.
It also begs the question, why on earth would anyone want it embedded into the phone? It just makes it far more annoying when it comes to selling the phone, as many people do, when the newer version comes out a year later.
Because before phones were not as short on free space and for the phone owner larger SIM card is much more convenient than the new variety. It simply made no sense to have them that small before. It's still questionable whether the latest shrink was justifiable. It's probably OK for iPhone in USA. But I am sure that people in other countries who change their SIM cards frequently as well as the owners of the phones that have replaceable batteries and memory cards are less happy for now they have to deal with SIM cards that are uncomfortable to hold and handle.Looks like the nano SIM basically just eliminated the plastic edges around the metal part, why didn't they do that to begin with?
I'm wondering the same thing. This is the phone plan I'm thinking about. Also, JayTruth, how do you like this plan? How does it work out with only 100 min? I was hoping to do most of my calls on Skype, but I hear it's not allowed in the US. Any thoughts?Will my tmobile $30 100 min sim work in here if I cut it?
I was wondering about this too. Are we just supposed to assume the same goes for the US or is this only affecting Europe?Why is this stockpiling only being reported as a European phenomenon? #justcurious
I assume you're in the US? In Europe, you can pick up SIMs very cheaply and easily for many different carriers. I probably have about 20-30 different ones. I can change from a contract to a pre-pay account, from voice-only to data-only, from a UK account to a Dutch one, from a work account to a private one, or use my wife's account on my phone or vice-versa within a few seconds (handy when one of us runs out of battery, for example). It's hard to see how you could get that flexibility with a built-in chip.You misunderstood his post.
When people refer to a inbuilt chip, they aren't referring to the way CDMA phones work.
Instead the internal sim card will work similar to that of Wifi. Your phone will display the available signals in your area and you pick the one you have an account with. Up on selecting it you enter your details and volia your phone is now activated.
On Topic: Its smart on their part, they are going to need these sims eventually. Better to be safe than sorry.
Nano my arse. That's the biggest 1MB memory card in production.
the problem with that is that providers want to keep strict control over the encryption keys used. If apple made the sims, they would add another layer where the encryption keys could be leaked. It's not gonna happen. Most of the systems inside the sim card are in place to keep the encryption keys secret and un-readable. Basically the sim is a mini computer that calculates a mathematic algorithm using the encryption keys. Knowing the variable, and since only the sim and the operator (on their end) know the real encryption key, the result of the algorithm is what is transmitted over the wireless signal.How about Apple supplies the SIM? Then, you just have to register it with the provider.
iPad comes with a SIM for the carrier you pick.What do you mean? iPad came with it, no problem. If you have a SIM, you can activate it with a carrier...
I see. Yea, should have read up on it. Nevertheless, the distribution still could go this way. It's mostly made in China anyways. This way, you also save costs because there are not 2 supply chains going to the customer but just one. For the ones who buy it at the Apple store, yes, I guess you would need them in the countires.iPad comes with a SIM for the carrier you pick.
There's no such thing as a generic SIM card that can be registered to any random carrier. The SIM contains various codes that are needed to get the device on the network. It isn't just a computer-readable number to identify the subscriber.