I disagree. If you rent a home with smart devices, you should not be locked into any particular voice assistant.TF does that mean? “...that smart devices are "truly interoperable" with one another...” What a load of horse manure.
I disagree. If you rent a home with smart devices, you should not be locked into any particular voice assistant.
Many appliances should still work fine 20 years later. Proprietary systems mean people stop using them early - I just recently replaced all my smart lights because there’s no good client available anymore. Luckily lights are only worth hundreds of dollars. Right now I wouldn’t touch an expensive smart device like a HVAC system.
Hopefully this results in a standard like http. Something that will be compatible with everything for the foreseeable future.
Well let’s see if they are as eger when brexit realy hits at the start of january 2021, uk food prices are set to rise, exports will be more complicated ( costing uk jobs etc) this on top of the not so briliant handeling of the corona crises by the current clown inhabiting 10, downing st. And his gang in westminster. Oh well the brits did it to them selves, first by woting brexit, and then by electing the conservatives by a landslide (k corbin helped a bit, but still) .That said I feel sorry for those worse off that didn’t vote for either. But I’m off on a rant sorry abot thatAs a European I get really tired of the European Commission, that's why many Dutch people from the EU want to join the British.
20 years, lets hope no smart devisesremain in service that long, do you realu think any of them will have any kind of software batching vter5 years, and I+I disagree. If you rent a home with smart devices, you should not be locked into any particular voice assistant.
Many appliances should still work fine 20 years later. Proprietary systems mean people stop using them early - I just recently replaced all my smart lights because there’s no good client available anymore. Luckily lights are only worth hundreds of dollars. Right now I wouldn’t touch an expensive smart device like a HVAC system.
Hopefully this results in a standard like http. Something that will be compatible with everything for the foreseeable future.
Both of you seemed to missed the point of the comment. They were simply using game consoles as an example of the idea. Is the EC trying to tell Sony that Playstation needs to play Xbox games, and visa versa? No. Why is the EC not allowing Apple, Google, or Amazon to have their own product in a particular field (digital assistants) that is only compatible with their own standards, but the EC has no problem with Sony making a product in their own field (video games) that is not universal; allowing Microsoft's and Nintendo's standards to work on a playstation?
ruka.snow, according to your comment, a person shouldn't get caught up in always having to buy only Playstation games because it cannot play Xbox games.
What does "Internet of Things" mean?
I think its a noble cause to not make any 1 company control the internet, and quite anti-capitalist. That is not going to happen though, with Google code injected in everything and they hold sole monopoly in somethings like YouTube and Instagram by Facebook, and Amazon runs 40% of the internet. Lets be real here, Microsoft-Google-Yahoo control like 90% of personal email worldwide.
Internet of Things in its simplest, most common form, refers to putting processing capability and network interfaces, in things like light bulbs and wall switches (there are many other forms, but this is among the most common). It’s a “thing” that has internet (or other network) capability, as opposed to putting those capabilities in a traditional “computer” (PC, Mac, smart phone, tablet). If you can turn your lights on and off with Siri or Alexa, those are IoT devices (the lights or switches).What does "Internet of Things" mean?
You are right. The commission will end up forcing a uniform GUI for the sake of interoperability which will be the ultimate monopoly; don't like the interface... tough.The European Commission says that it's aiming to prevent big companies from becoming "gatekeepers" of the Internet of Things through market domination and data collection.
That is hilarious to me.. what exactly are they doing with their commissions? Collecting data and becoming gatekeepers themselves. Some serious bias happening toward tech companies to say the very least.. not that they are squeaky clean by any means.
The European Commission says that it's aiming to prevent big companies from becoming "gatekeepers" of the Internet of Things through market domination and data collection.
That is hilarious to me.. what exactly are they doing with their commissions? Collecting data and becoming gatekeepers themselves. Some serious bias happening toward tech companies to say the very least.. not that they are squeaky clean by any means.
You are right. The commission will end up forcing a uniform GUI for the sake of interoperability which will be the ultimate monopoly; don't like the interface... tough.
What about the world of IoT that are not controlled by Apple, Google or Amazon? Washing machines, refrigerators, other appliances, medical devices etc...Mr. EU? Or is it just pick on the big guys in the room?
To me as a general comment, the EU appears to be a bunch of busy bodies, targeting things Apple in the tech sector.
It's about preventing the situation where you have to have a specific brands router, phone, television, lightbulbs, fridge, sockets, etc.
It is not about websites.
It is not acceptable for consumers to have to buy specific Homekit only lightbulbs or any other device that only works with one standard. There is a good chance they might also crack down on devices that become useless after the company abandons them, like smart speakers.
Internet of Things in its simplest, most common form, refers to putting processing capability and network interfaces, in things like light bulbs and wall switches (there are many other forms, but this is among the most common). It’s a “thing” that has internet (or other network) capability, as opposed to putting those capabilities in a traditional “computer” (PC, Mac, smart phone, tablet). If you can turn your lights on and off with Siri or Alexa, those are IoT devices (the lights or switches).
The article is about the EU looking to mandate standards for interoperability of IoT devices. Using “Siri” in the title is misleading - Siri’s an “intelligent agent”, software for carrying on a voice conversation with the computer. Apple’s software for controlling IoT devices is HomeKit. Siri just happens to have the ability to issue HomeKit commands.
Up to a certain point, proprietary standards are great - each company pushing to make their’s best. After that point, the lack of interoperability becomes a hindrance to widespread adoption of really useful technology.Whats wrong with companies having their owns standards, this has been the case since forever. Nokia phones had their own chargers, BMW has its own brakes, Apple has its own port, etc
What does "Internet of Things" mean?
I think its a noble cause to not make any 1 company control the internet, and quite anti-capitalist. That is not going to happen though, with Google code injected in everything and they hold sole monopoly in somethings like YouTube and Instagram by Facebook, and Amazon runs 40% of the internet. Lets be real here, Microsoft-Google-Yahoo control like 90% of personal email worldwide.
Up to a certain point, proprietary standards are great - each company pushing to make their’s best. After that point, the lack of interoperability becomes a hindrance to widespread adoption of really useful technology.
What if your house, instead of having AC wiring and AC outlets, had Samsung AC wiring and Samsung AC outlets, which only worked with Samsung light bulbs and Samsung appliances, while, say, the houses on the other side of the street had Philips AC wiring and Philips AC outlets and only worked with Philips appliances. Maybe your relatives had LG AC in their house, so when you went to visit, you couldn’t plug in your phone charger.
It’s a huge benefit to the public at large that we have widespread standards for AC electrical connections (well, they’re not worldwide, but countrywide at least - interesting that USB is more universal than any one country’s AC).
So, there’s benefit to mandating standards, but problem is picking the right time to do it. New technology often advances rapidly in its infancy - mandate something too early, and we might have ended up with MiniUSB or full-sized USB-A connectors on phones. But if you don’t draw the line somewhere, you might have ended up with Samsung AC in your house.
Frankly, I’m not sure it’s time yet to mandate standards for IoT devices, because the manufacturers themselves are working on a standard called “Project Connected Home over IP”. It’s probably better to let them work that out, and then, if it’s solid and effective, the governments can put their stamp of approval on that, rather than having a government agency trying to spec a technical standard.
It’s really not. It has the majority support of most nations in Europe. Even when Britain decided to leave, the vote was tight, and it took years and 2 more governments for them to get bills passed that would allow for the withdrawing of the EU. No follow up opinion poll said a leave vote would win if people were to vote again on the issue.EU is dead they just don’t know it yet, they are just a minority that think they are a country and even have a flag 🤣 so up themselves they haven’t clicked on that programmers rule the world
Indeed.Didn’t Apple, Google, and Amazon just enter in agreement that would make this all actually work? Like all of the smart home devices would work together, no matter what platform it was on? Wouldn’t that solve this problem