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European Commission Opens Investigation into Samsung's Patent Threats Against Apple

tinman0 said:
It's not pretty for Motorola - they just got an injunction awarded to them to enforce a FRAND patent!

Motorola just overplayed their hand, and now the EC will be widening it's investigation to them as well.

You don't get injunctions on FRAND patents unless you like paying authorities like the EC large amounts of cash in fines as it is anti-competitive, which is what Apple have been saying all along about the behaviour of Google, Samsung and Motorola.

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There's a very good comment, I think it's on Planet of the Apes, where an ape makes a point about a human being able to talk. It goes along the lines, that just because they can talk does not mean they are intelligent.

I suggest that now you understand the word "preliminary" you absorb those words into proper thought. :)
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With such bold claims made, care to explain the specifics of Moto's case v. Apple? You must know, after all, drawing all those fancy conclusions above.

...or, are you just pulling things out of your arse?
 
tinman0 said:
It's not pretty for Motorola - they just got an injunction awarded to them to enforce a FRAND patent!

Motorola just overplayed their hand, and now the EC will be widening it's investigation to them as well.

You don't get injunctions on FRAND patents unless you like paying authorities like the EC large amounts of cash in fines as it is anti-competitive, which is what Apple have been saying all along about the behaviour of Google, Samsung and Motorola.
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And you know this exactly how? Any link to support your claims?
 
tinman0 said:
There's a very good comment, I think it's on Planet of the Apes, where an ape makes a point about a human being able to talk. It goes along the lines, that just because they can talk does not mean they are intelligent.

I suggest that now you understand the word "preliminary" you absorb those words into proper thought. :)
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Okay. Since I apparently don't understand what preliminary means, why don't you enlighten me.

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divinox said:
Is it just me or did Android implement a sort of "scroll and tilt" effect in ICS? Cant say that i found it very attractive but if it stops the whining, hey - good job!
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I haven't been keeping tabs on ICS too much, but from the last video I saw, it looked like they still have it there. Though it's was less scroll and bounce, and more scroll and snap.
 
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Renzatic said:
Okay. Since I apparently don't understand what preliminary means, why don't you enlighten me.

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I haven't been keeping tabs on ICS too much, but from the last video I saw, it looked like they still have it there. Though it's was less scroll and bounce, and more scroll and snap.
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Hmm, ok. I just remember seeing some video where they scrolled through start screens, and the last start screen on the list was signalled through the pane "tilting" so to speak.
 
Oletros said:
2. The second link is Florian Mueller, a well known Microsoft payed boy always spreading FUD over open source. The same German "expert" that didn't knew how German an European laws worked and the same "expert" that said that because Apple have to pay Nokia this is a win for Apple because ALL Android manufacturers would have to pay to Nokia licenses fee when they have been paying them for years.
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Got a citation or two? Like, I've seen negative mentions about this guy on slashdot before, but I couldn't find any actual definitive evidence to write him off.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_Müller says he was hired by Red Hat and MySQL AB?
 
 
How long before Apple announces a supply chain that mysteriously omits the name "Samsung"? Or is this simply not possible - are they the only manufacturers that can meet Apple's demands in terms of volume and quality?

It's a strange relationship: one of the most important technical partners on one hand, patent foe on the other! I guess this is what happens when you work with people that are also competing against as part of their other businesses.
 
Oletros said:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/florian-mueller-finds-a-new-windmill-to-attack-in-ibm/6202

http://paidcontent.org/article/419-...rian-mueller-getting-too-cozy-with-microsoft/

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...-forced-android-copyright-infringement-claims

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/burnette/...ons-of-mass-destruction-found-in-android/2162

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110122054409107
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Interesting.

The IBM thing is pretty dumb of him, but it's kind of thing I've expected from open source zealots ever since reading about GPL zealots attaching themselves to BSD licensed code. I see that one as him trolling for attention.

The Microsoft money article is reasonable. As I read it, Florian does seem very anti-Google. Pro-Microsoft? Not so much. It mentioned he did a review of FRAND patents for MS?
So he's definitely not impartial. But as the writer says, he's certainly qualified and does sometimes make reasonable statements.

The unit test incident is, as I see it, technically correct.
It's Sun's code.
It got it's licence changed by somebody when it shouldn't.
And it was package and distributed as part of the Android source package on a prominent server.
It's also been fixed by the removal of said unit test.
While I can chalk it up to him being anti-Google and biased, he was correct.
But in the grand scheme of things, license violation on unit tests is insignificant.

As for groklaw, I had already seen them are being just as impartial as I see *LTD*. Certainly downhill from the SCO reporting days.

Overall, good to know. I'll be more aware of his biases when reading his stuff.
 
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