HomeKit EVE Matter update soon, HUE 1st Q '23 Not sure how/when to apply the 16.2 update to my iOS devices.

[QuietGamer]

This is possibly not a good situation. My smart plugs are all EVE (Matter compatible versions) with the exception of the EVE strip (2.4 WiFi, not matter compatible) All of the lighting in the household are HUE bulbs. Even after reading the EVE site and other news outlets about Matter I am not confident that after updating to 16.2 and EVE plugs to Matter ( I assume they will automatically update ) the ability to control the HUE lights will discontinue until the HUE Hub is updated.

Maybe holding out updating to 16.2 until HUE gets on board?

Is there going to be a glitch in the Matrix or am I over thinking this?

 

[waw74]

you are overthinking,
you can update

there are 2 things happening at the same time which is leading to confusion. There's matter and there's the new architecture. they're separate things.

Matter: homekit will still talk to the current homekit compatible devices. It will also talk to matter deceives. It will do both at the same time. Matter and homekit are just "languages" that tell controllers and devices how to format commands between themselves. The coming situation is similar to you having a friend who recently learned to speak French. You can still talk to them in English without problems, and they can talk to new friends in French.
I'm not sure if the Eve addition of matter will be optional or forced, but either way, your existing homekit devices will still work. So you could wind up with eve talking matter and hue talking homekit, But from your perspective both will be the same, it's just the background communication between the phone and the device that might change.

Matter is going to expand the devices available to control, Since manufacturers will just have to add matter, and not google and homekit and Alexa controls into their devices.

The other thing that's coming is the home app architecture update. This is where you have to think about updating or not. Currently your home just has a list of devices, and then each controller (phone, HomePod, whatever) talks to your devices. Meaning if you use your HomePod to turn a lamp red, your phone then will ask the lamp what color it is. With the new architecture, you will have a "home controller" (not sure what the official term is) It will centralize control, So one of your hubs will take over control. That hub will also maintain states, and handle all communicaiton to your devices. So if your aTV is the controller, and you ask the HomePod to turn the lamp red, The HomePod will talk to the aTV, and the aTV will talk to the lamp. The aTV will also maintain a "current state" of your devices. On the "old architecture" when you launch the home app, your phone will the polls all of your various devices. On the new architecture, the controller will have all of that information, so the home app should have status for your devices quickly, and not be "no response" for a couple seconds. This should also speed up and make control more reliable.

Unlike matter and homekit playing nicely beside each other, the new and old architecture will not work together. If you want to update to the new architecture, ALL of your apple devices MUST be on the current OS (or at the time of me writing this, the soon to be released OS), or they won't be able to control anything in your home. If you have an older iPhone that can't update to 16.2 it won't be able to control a new architecture home. This also applies to anyone you've shared the home with.

The new architecture update will be voluntary. You'll be given a choice to update home after you've updated iOS on the phone. I'm guessing at some point in a couple years, the old architecture will be retired

 

[QuietGamer]

you are overthinking,
you can update

there are 2 things happening at the same time which is leading to confusion. There's matter and there's the new architecture. they're separate things.

Matter: homekit will still talk to the current homekit compatible devices. It will also talk to matter deceives. It will do both at the same time. Matter and homekit are just "languages" that tell controllers and devices how to format commands between themselves. The coming situation is similar to you having a friend who recently learned to speak French. You can still talk to them in English without problems, and they can talk to new friends in French.
I'm not sure if the Eve addition of matter will be optional or forced, but either way, your existing homekit devices will still work. So you could wind up with eve talking matter and hue talking homekit, But from your perspective both will be the same, it's just the background communication between the phone and the device that might change.

Matter is going to expand the devices available to control, Since manufacturers will just have to add matter, and not google and homekit and Alexa controls into their devices.

The other thing that's coming is the home app architecture update. This is where you have to think about updating or not. Currently your home just has a list of devices, and then each controller (phone, HomePod, whatever) talks to your devices. Meaning if you use your HomePod to turn a lamp red, your phone then will ask the lamp what color it is. With the new architecture, you will have a "home controller" (not sure what the official term is) It will centralize control, So one of your hubs will take over control. That hub will also maintain states, and handle all communicaiton to your devices. So if your aTV is the controller, and you ask the HomePod to turn the lamp red, The HomePod will talk to the aTV, and the aTV will talk to the lamp. The aTV will also maintain a "current state" of your devices. On the "old architecture" when you launch the home app, your phone will the polls all of your various devices. On the new architecture, the controller will have all of that information, so the home app should have status for your devices quickly, and not be "no response" for a couple seconds. This should also speed up and make control more reliable.

Unlike matter and homekit playing nicely beside each other, the new and old architecture will not work together. If you want to update to the new architecture, ALL of your apple devices MUST be on the current OS (or at the time of me writing this, the soon to be released OS), or they won't be able to control anything in your home. If you have an older iPhone that can't update to 16.2 it won't be able to control a new architecture home. This also applies to anyone you've shared the home with.

The new architecture update will be voluntary. You'll be given a choice to update home after you've updated iOS on the phone. I'm guessing at some point in a couple years, the old architecture will be retired

Thank you for the great explanation. It seems that both versions will play well in the sand box during the transition and the user experience will be unaffected.

 

[Nozuka]

It was a bit confusing to me at first.
I have 2 "eve room" that are not matter compatible. But i don't think that made any difference.

I upgraded to the new Homekit version. Afterwards i had 2 homes. None of the old home was migrated to the new one.
And before i could add the old devices to the new home, i had to delete them in the old home.

With the Eve Room (gen1) i just deleted them in the old home and added them again to the new "my home" with the Homekit QR Code printed on them. Luckily that did not delete any of their temperature/humidity/etc... history. It is all still there.


Also had to delete the Hue Bridge on the old home and add it to the new home, before i could add the lights to the new home.
Same with every Sonos device.


It is quite a bit of work. And i'm not sure if there was supposed to be a migration assistant that did not pop up for me after updating to the new homekit version, or if this is the way to do it. But i have now migrated everything and deleted the old home.

 

[Htsi]

Did not have to do any migration when I updated to the new home arch