Eve Releases First Thread-Enabled Smart Light Switch

[justperry]

The Eve Light Switch, which is designed for the European market, can use both Thread and Bluetooth to connect to a smart home network, depending on which is available. It requires a neutral wire and is not compatible with existing switch plates, meaning that the only option is to use the one that comes with the Eve Switch itself.

The Eve Light Switch is priced at €99.95

Wow, this will fail miserably.

1. Price is too high. Really, me shakes head.
2. Not compatible with other brand switch plates.
3. Requires a neutral wire.

Point three is not a problem for me, I can put an additional wire in the pipe unlike many other countries/places in Europe, they use (in-wall) cables.

I use Shelly 1 together with my brand switches (Peha), a lot cheaper and design-wise a lot more aesthetic.

 

[macjonny1]

I've always wondered how Europe has these huge light switches compared to the USA. Massive

 

[dogslobber]

Get a non-BT model from any hardware store for 2 bucks.

 

[justperry]

I've always wondered how Europe has these huge light switches compared to the USA. Massive

Pretty sure the US in-wall boxes behind the switch are bigger than European boxes, therefor the switch is smaller in Europe.
Here's a European in wall box:
You can snap pipe inlets on all sides, also snap a few of them together, remove the red cover, slide them together, much smarter than the US system.

 

[Nütztjanix]

Wow, this will fail miserably.

1. Price is too high. Really, me shakes head.
2. Not compatible with other brand switch plates.
3. Requires a neutral wire.

[…]

Ad 1: You're right, it is expensive.
Ad 2: You're wrong - it's actually compatible with almost any (continental) European switch, as it's standard System 55 dimensions. You can also get different cover plates in different styles and colours.
Ad 3: Luckily, most newer homes do have neutral in the switch box.

 

[hagar]

Targeted at the European market where the HomePod Mini, the HomeKit hub with Thread support, is mostly not for sale. Oh the irony.

 

[Nütztjanix]

Targeted at the European market where the HomePod Mini, the HomeKit hub with Thread support, is mostly not for sale. Oh the irony.

It also does Bluetooth, as mentioned in the article (although I always wondered why they didn't do WiFi, as it's permanently powered).

 

[mw360]

I could justify that cost if it's the button to open up the top of my house and raise the doomsday weapon. But not for turning the light on.

 

[Nütztjanix]

I could justify that cost if it's the button to open up the top of my house and raise the doomsday weapon. But not for turning the light on.

If the top of your house and your doomsday weapon is HomeKit compatible, it can do just that. It's only one automation away!

 

[mw360]

If the top of your house and your doomsday weapon is HomeKit compatible, it can do just that. It's only one automation away!

It needs a hub, sadly.

 

[justperry]

Ad 1: You're right, it is expensive.
Ad 2: You're wrong - it's actually compatible with almost any (continental) European switch, as it's standard System 55 dimensions. You can also get different cover plates in different styles and colours.
Ad 3: Luckily, most newer homes do have neutral in the switch box.

From the article:

and is not compatible with existing switch plates

And even if it is, system 55 is not compatible with a few other brands, Peha for instance.

Edit:
https://myopus.eu/eve

 

[justperry]

The Eve Light Switch, which is designed for the European market, can use both Thread and Bluetooth to connect to a smart home network, depending on which is available. It requires a neutral wire and is not compatible with existing switch plates, meaning that the only option is to use the one that comes with the Eve Switch itself.

Please edit, it is possible to use other brand switch plates.

Have you already installed a switch program that you would like to keep? Frames and rockers from Berker, Busch-Jaeger and Gira can be easily combined with the Eve Light Switch!

https://myopus.eu/eve

 

[Nütztjanix]

From the article:

And even if it is, system 55 is not compatible with a few other brands, Peha for instance.

Edit:
https://myopus.eu/eve

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The article is clearly wrong, as I use multiple Eve Light Switches (previous generation) with Gira Event frames and anthracite switch plates.

 

[rafark]

I've never heard of "Thread" before; shouldn't emerging technologies and terminologies be defined within the news article itself?

I guess I'm off to search the web for an answer now 😪

Edit: And after a quick search, I find a wonderful comprehensive answer: Thread smart home explained

I was about to say this. What the heck is Thread and why didn’t the author briefly described the technology?

 

[justperry]

The article is clearly wrong, as I use multiple Eve Light Switches (previous generation) with Gira Event frames and anthracite switch plates.

Yes, that's why I edited my post, and pointed this out in another post.

 

[rlhamil]

You know you're in Europe when switches are square and doorknobs are in the middle. Not worse or better. Just different.

You know you're in the Shire (or maybe Bree) if windows and doors are round. 🤣

 

[MrCubes]

Requires a neutral wire, so not really for the European market at least not the UK.

Still nothing to replace Lightwave switches. It’s pathetic. Even Hue is useless if you have G4/G9 bulbs which are very common in the UK.

I've just had a loft extension and asked the electrician to install it with a neutral wire throughout. He's coming back to do second fix, tomorrow - but I've still not been able to find any decent HK switches available in the UK (these ones, from Eve, are "not available in your country"). I'm going to have to wait for more options and/ or when I can reasonably import them.

 

[An Apple a day...]

Ugly ugly ugly

You are wrong

 

[hagar]

It also does Bluetooth, as mentioned in the article (although I always wondered why they didn't do WiFi, as it's permanently powered).

Sure. But why would I buy a €99 mount switch that uses Bluetooth. That just doesn’t make any sense.
My current Bluetooth HomeKit enabled devices are sloooooooow. The more I think about this, the more I see these so called smart devices are expensive solutions looking for a problem.

 

[Nütztjanix]

Sure. But why would I buy a €99 mount switch that uses Bluetooth. That just doesn’t make any sense.
My current Bluetooth HomeKit enabled devices are sloooooooow. The more I think about this, the more I see these so called smart devices are expensive solutions looking for a problem.

As I said, I never understood why it was Bluetooth. It's not like it's operating on some kind of limited power budget … I would have preferred WiFi (more so one the original iteration).

 

[ghanwani]

Is there such a thing as a switch that can be paired with a phone via Bluetooth for programming its timers? I want to avoid WiFi. I'm looking for something like that to control outdoor lighting.