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Wanted to share with my latest thought..
I have ipp 10.5 from 2017 which I use for note taking in college. My ipp got replaced during its first of warranty because of showing white spots above the home button. After a few months, after I’m out of warranty it’s started to showing the white spots all over again. I went to the Apple store looking for some help only to get offered 450 euro for a replacement unit. Now, 2 months later, the battery started dying quickly. It drops 20% after 1-1.5 hours of normal use.
So I started thinking - maybe I should get a new iPad? But then I realized that despite of the iPad lineup being the largest then ever, everyone of them has a weakness; the iPad mini is just too small. the iPad 7 base model comes with only 32gb which is ridiculously small. The iPad Air 3 shows the same design error as my ipp 10.5 (after a little research I did in the web. Guess Apple didn’t learn from the ipp 10.5). The new ipp lineup bends easily.
Oh dear.
 
The iPad mini is flawless and that's a hill I'm willing to die on.
  • Too small? I think you mean portable.
  • Not quick enough? You're too quick.
  • No Apple Pencil 2 support? Apple Pencil 1 is cheaper.
  • No FaceID? TouchID mate.
Need I say more?
 
Cool. Sounds like the iPad isn't for you. Try a Surface Pro or a Galaxy Tab.
It’s nothing like that. I love using my iPad and it always helped me getting my work done. I’m saying it’s too bad that Most of the current lineup is not reliable enough in terms of built quality.
 
Wanted to share with my latest thought..
I have ipp 10.5 from 2017 which I use for note taking in college. My ipp got replaced during its first of warranty because of showing white spots above the home button. After a few months, after I’m out of warranty it’s started to showing the white spots all over again. I went to the Apple store looking for some help only to get offered 450 euro for a replacement unit. Now, 2 months later, the battery started dying quickly. It drops 20% after 1-1.5 hours of normal use.
So I started thinking - maybe I should get a new iPad? But then I realized that despite of the iPad lineup being the largest then ever, everyone of them has a weakness; the iPad mini is just too small. the iPad 7 base model comes with only 32gb which is ridiculously small. The iPad Air 3 shows the same design error as my ipp 10.5 (after a little research I did in the web. Guess Apple didn’t learn from the ipp 10.5). The new ipp lineup bends easily.
Oh dear.

i think you should look into an Android or Surface tablet if you do not like the current iPad lineup. I think, you should go with the iPad 7th gen 10.2", but with 128 GB. That's 100$ more over the 32 GB. Air 3 is also an amazing device and it comes with 64 GB, and who cares if it has the same design? So does the 10.2" iPad and the mini.
 
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It’s nothing like that. I love using my iPad and it always helped me getting my work done. I’m saying it’s too bad that Most of the current lineup is not reliable enough in terms of built quality.
That is a subjective statement and you are entitled to that opinion. But it DOES seem like you are going out of your way to find flaws in every model.

In your original post you complained about the iPad 7 starting out with only 32GB. The fact that the entry-level iPad has a base storage capacity of 32GB is NOT a flaw. Sure, you may find 32GB insufficient (as do I), but a 128GB model is available. People who complain about the base storage models are really complaining about the price. They don't want to pay $100 more for 4x the storage. Complaints about Apple pricing is nothing new and not specific to iPads.

The best bang-for-the-buck iPad is the iPad 7. I'm holding on to my iPad 6 (which I have been using heavily daily for over a year and a half) as it performs every bit as well now as it did when I first bought it.

I've seen many people dismiss the entry level iPads because they get caught up in the marketing hype over the Pro models and believe that the Pencil 2 is so far superior to the Pencil 1, that ProMotion is a must-have (and non-PM models are a stuttering mess), and so on. I used to succumb to the feeling of "missing out" on the latest features, but I eventually broke out of that... now I'm getting every bit of usefulness out of the base iPads as I was with the Pros I previously owned... at a decent price. I encourage others to do that too.
 
Air 3 is also an amazing device and it comes with 64 GB, and who cares if it has the same design? So does the 10.2" iPad and the mini.

He's saying that the Air 3 has the same design flaw as the Pro 10.5, which is the appearance of white spots on the display. This appears to be true, although it obviously doesn't affect all units.
 
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What's so great about USB-C? Most products are still on Lightening so having one product (or maybe two) on USB-C is just annoying and requires adaptors.
file transfer. i have ipad mini 2019.The only way to transfer file for me is icloud and airdrop. E.g i want quick view of pendrive, i need dongle and extra power.If it will work gods know.
 
Those aren’t the only ways. As you said, you can plug in anything with the right adapter.
I have camera adapter old time work without needed extra power but new sometime work and sometime not which totally hassle. I yet to see a popup windows when i connect ipad to imac.So icloud and airdrop the reliable for me now.
 
The iPad lineup is complete enough to satisfy most customers. And as for the bending issue, I have the 12.9 iPad Pro sat on it couple times by accident and it's still straight like an "I".
 
What's so great about USB-C? Most products are still on Lightening so having one product (or maybe two) on USB-C is just annoying and requires adaptors.

I have the Air 2 and 10.5 Pro with Lightning and 2018 12.9 Pro with USB-C - I'll take USB-C any day of the week over Lightning. Easy, direct plug-in of storage devices without a dongle and additional power and lots of good choices on hubs available.
 
He's saying that the Air 3 has the same design flaw as the Pro 10.5, which is the appearance of white spots on the display. This appears to be true, although it obviously doesn't affect all units.

You are right, this one i missed. He wrote "design error", not "design". My bad, never mind.
 
It’s nothing like that. I love using my iPad and it always helped me getting my work done. I’m saying it’s too bad that Most of the current lineup is not reliable enough in terms of built quality.

I had a 12.9" 2018 (3rd gen) LTE iPP that did indeed bend. I returned it for a wifi version that has turned out to be very robust. Remember that the LTE antenna design essentially requires the side band to be 'broken' in four places, a weakness that causes potentially (and often actually) serious bends. The wifi version doesn't have that design limitation (flaw?).
 
We have 1 IPP 12.9 2018, 2 IPad 6, 1 IPP 1st gen and 1 IPad Air in our house and they see heavy usage (ask my 3 sons) and all of them rock. Sorry but I can’t share your complaints.
 
What's so great about USB-C? Most products are still on Lightening so having one product (or maybe two) on USB-C is just annoying and requires adaptors.

Charges faster.

I’m up to about 10 products that charge via USB-C, and down to two that use Lightning.
 
The only real issues are the white spot, which affects the majority of the 10.5in pros and the bending, which affects only a small minority of 3rd gen pros...
Other that that we can find in each and every ipads things that we don’t like, starting with the price... but these are not issues. I have a lot of ipads as you can see and love them all, but if I want I can mention for each something I don’t like. The minis? Only the 5 is really fast, but even that has not the great speakers of the pro. The 10.5 has the white spot, but it’s otherwise great. The 9.7 pro, I love it, but those 2GB RAM.... The 3rd gen? No headphone jack and I don’t love the new keyboard (heavier, cannot be put behind the screen in “smart cover mode”, is not lappabale). The first gen 12.9 pro is probably the hardest to criticize since it’s just an amazing device, still very fast and with 4GB RAM, with fast charging and UBS 3 speed.The only thing I could find, since I don’t care about pro-motion, is maybe the lightening port... (which applies to all ipads except the 3rd gen pro).
Still I love them all, the mini 5, the pro 9.7, the pro 10.5, the OG 12.9 and the 3rd gen, even if I returned because of the keyboard. There is nothing in the market like the ipad... surface (go, pro and pro x) and galaxy tabs are nowhere near (as a package, not as individual elements, but as package of power, weight, apps, optimisation etc.)
 
There is nothing in the market like the ipad... surface (go, pro and pro x) and galaxy tabs are nowhere near (as a package, not as individual elements, but as package of power, weight, apps, optimisation etc.)

As a user since the iPad 2, I strongly agree, and for me the 2018 iPP has been a quantum leap forward, even from the already unique place the iPad occupies.
 
The only real issues are the white spot, which affects the majority of the 10.5in pros and the bending, which affects only a small minority of 3rd gen pros...
Other that that we can find in each and every ipads things that we don’t like, starting with the price... but these are not issues. I have a lot of ipads as you can see and love them all, but if I want I can mention for each something I don’t like. The minis? Only the 5 is really fast, but even that has not the great speakers of the pro. The 10.5 has the white spot, but it’s otherwise great. The 9.7 pro, I love it, but those 2GB RAM.... The 3rd gen? No headphone jack and I don’t love the new keyboard (heavier, cannot be put behind the screen in “smart cover mode”, is not lappabale). The first gen 12.9 pro is probably the hardest to criticize since it’s just an amazing device, still very fast and with 4GB RAM, with fast charging and UBS 3 speed.The only thing I could find, since I don’t care about pro-motion, is maybe the lightening port... (which applies to all ipads except the 3rd gen pro).
Still I love them all, the mini 5, the pro 9.7, the pro 10.5, the OG 12.9 and the 3rd gen, even if I returned because of the keyboard. There is nothing in the market like the ipad... surface (go, pro and pro x) and galaxy tabs are nowhere near (as a package, not as individual elements, but as package of power, weight, apps, optimisation etc.)
As usable surface pro much more use upon ipad but you cannot compare it because diff segment.
 
the iPad mini is just too small. the iPad 7 base model comes with only 32gb which is ridiculously small.
I don’t know about the other iPads, but for these two it really seems like you’re desperately trying to find something to complain about. If you find the mini too small, that just means you’re not in the market for a very portable iPad; it’s not a weakness. That’s like me saying you have a weakness because I want a car and you don’t have wheels. As for the 32gb base storage of the iPad 7, why do you care if Apple offers lower storage at a cheaper price for those who find it sufficient? Do you really find $429 too expensive for a new 128gb iPad? Seems like a great value to me, even if it was 64gb. Keep in mind the base mini is $399 at 64gb. So for $30 more, you get the bigger size you wanted, plus double the storage.
 
As for the 32gb base storage of the iPad 7, why do you care if Apple offers lower storage at a cheaper price for those who find it sufficient? Do you really find $429 too expensive for a new 128gb iPad? Seems like a great value to me, even if it was 64gb. Keep in mind the base mini is $399 at 64gb. So for $30 more, you get the bigger size you wanted, plus double the storage.
Black Friday coming up soon so that's gonna be $250 for 32GB and $330 for 128GB. Might catch it on pre-BF sales, too. BBY had the iPad 7 at BF prices for like a day or two.
 
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