Every regret getting mac, even for a moment?

Discussion in 'Mac Basics and Help' started by prophet621, Sep 13, 2005.

  1. prophet621 macrumors member

    Jul 31, 2005
    Before I begin, I want to say that I’m not trying to start any arguments, just frustrated and I guess I want to see if there are/were others like me. Did you have problems or for whatever reason not like your mac but it grew on you? I constantly hear from people on this board and a few people at work I talk to who often say they bought a mac and never looked back or something similar. That’s not the case with me. To be honest, I really don’t like it very much and rarely use it.

    It doesn't 'just work' for me, in fact, it stops work or causes more work. I've had constant problems with it and 2 re-installs of the OS in the month I've owned it. Even without all the problems I've had I can't say I would like it. I just fell like I wasted my money on a lemon.
  2. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004

    When I got my brand-new dual 1.42 G4 home, powered it up and an unholy racket filled the room, sounding much like a vacuum cleaner.

    Extremely disappointed... eventually spent money on an expensive silencing kit for it so I could retain a few shreds of sanity.

    Noisiest computer I've ever heard. Anywhere.
  3. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    Perhaps you have a faulty model. Why don't you tell us what these problems are so that we can help you get your Mac up and running as it should?
  4. gwuMACaddict macrumors 68040


    Apr 21, 2003
    washington dc
    hehehehe... the onld wind tunnel power mac, such a classic :D

    sometimes safari makes me want to smash things- so slow sometimes!

    but no, never regretted any mac purchase
  5. Lacero macrumors 604


    Jan 20, 2005
    I only regret a mac purchase when I should have upgraded sooner. I waited 3 years before upgrading my G4 Quicksilver 867Mhz to a G5 2x2.5. Very f***ing stupid of me.
  6. ChrisBrightwell macrumors 68020


    Apr 5, 2004
    Huntsville, AL
    The only problem I have is my CORBA class right now. It's very tied to MS Visual C++ 6, which doesn't fly on OS X, so I'm tied to my desktop PC for that class.

    I hope the Intel PowerBooks dual-boot OS X and Windows. That functionality, for me, is the "killer app" in the Intel migration.

    Is this something you're causing or is the system just eating itself?
  7. Thanatoast macrumors 65816


    Dec 3, 2002
    Yep, whenever I see a cool game for the PC that I want. That's why I'm so happy that the new Mactels are coming out. I still get to use OSX for all my computing needs, and I can install a copy of Windows for all my gaming needs. :)

    Any word on fast OS switching in 10.5? :D
  8. SummerBreeze macrumors 6502a


    Sep 11, 2005
    Chicago, IL
    For awhile, I really hated my old iMac DV. It was a refurb, running OS 9.2 and it had some problems. The cd slot drove me crazy, cds would get stuck in there and sometimes dvds just wouldn't play. And this was in the day when everything was dial-up, so my friends had a newer version of AOL while mine capped at 6.0. When I got a Windows desktop, I was pretty happy about it. In all honestly, I didn't really like 9.2 much.

    But then again, as soon as I got a new computer I missed iTunes more than anything (it hadn't come out for Windows yet) and still went back to the iMac to burn cds. Even now, when I use Windows or Linux, I constantly find myself trying to use Expose, or trying to use the dock. And whenever I see the Luna them, it's so ugly that I want to cry. I guess it goes both ways, which is why I'm glad that I can use Mac most of the time, and Windows or Linux when I need to.
  9. feakbeak macrumors 6502a


    Oct 16, 2003
    Although this is a bit of a tangent - hardware companies are looking to virtualization to allow this type of scenario. Two or more OSes sharing the hardware resources in realtime. This is what VMWare and VPC (for x86) currently do with software. Hardware manufacturer's are looking to do all of this at the hardware level. It'll probably show up in servers first but someday you might be able to run Windows and OS X concurrently on the same box and switch between them at a whim. I'd certainly like that. :cool:

    To the OP, come on tell us what's going on we'll try and help you resolve the issues you are having. Your scenario is certainly not typical of new users to Macs.
  10. Cooknn macrumors 68020


    Aug 23, 2003
    Fort Myers, FL

    I switched about 2 years ago. No regrets. Not even for a moment :p More like the opposite. I've saved many friends and family from the dark side since I saw the light. The old days of tech support / virus and spyware removal on a monthly basis for everyone I know have almost completely gone away (I still have a couple more to convince).

    [EDIT]Sorry to hear about your problems though. What type of Mac did you buy and what is happening to cause you to have to reinstall, etc?
  11. kiwi-in-uk macrumors 6502a

    Sep 22, 2004
    No regrets in 18 months.

    Prophet621 ... I had a look through your other posts - re the sluggishness.

    My PB is not sluggish, even though it has approximately the same specs as your iBook. I tell a lie - Motion slows down sometimes when it is dealing with several concurrent particle effects, filters, and behaviours.

    Have you tried getting that Crucial memory tested?
    Have you tried turning off the Dashboard? (can be a resource hog if you put too much on it)
    Are you running Classic? (try turning that off as well)
    Are you running any anti-virus or non-Apple firewall? (try turning those off - I had endless problems until I took Norton stuff off the PB)
    Camino can also be a bit of a CPU cycle hog.

    I still have several Windows machines (see sig), but the wife & kids use them. I don't touch them except to make sure they remain virus/spyware-free.

    Good luck.
  12. JoeKarame macrumors regular


    May 2, 2005
    Macs have been my main computer for 7 years now.

    That said, I'd not be without a PC - too many games to look forward to, and what with Half-Life 2 being pretty much the best thinhg ever, I'd always want to have a PC lurking around in the shadows.

    But my iBook is my baby, and is used every day, for everything. If I could teach it how to cook, I would!
  13. Mord macrumors G4


    Aug 24, 2003
    if your mac crashes past a fresh OS install their is a hardware problem get it check out, i never have once regreted getting any of my macs, they all rule, though i do half regret getting the pc i currently only use for WoW and B2, windows has too many flaws and inefficiencies for me to be able to do any serious work on, and linux is just plain too much work, i use it on my ibook but only when i have to.
  14. Joined:
    Aug 20, 2005
    Why not fully explain the problem(s) you're having with the mac so someone here could attempt to help you, or for that matter, why didn't you call Apple from the start and iron it out. I would never spend the kinda cash Apple wants for a computer, just to set it aside and be unhappy with it.
  15. Bote macrumors regular


    Sep 11, 2005
    Philadelphia PA
    I just bought my first mac 6 mo ago and I do enjoy it. To me it does just work and I don't have to spend hours trouble shooting virus and spyware issues or why I keep getting OS error messages. However, eventhough I read an entire book about the mac OS before buying I got it home and really could not find S*%t!!! I was lost and for a second I felt like I made a big mistake. But I very happy with my purchase now. I am still very much a beginer but I am enjoying every minute. Keep in mind that I support windows based pcs for a living so I am obviously into punishment!

    If you feel that it is a hardware issue you are having you could take it to that smarty bar thing, or whatever they call it... :p
  16. edesignuk Moderator emeritus


    Mar 25, 2002
    London, England
    My 20" iMac G5 had all sorts of problems, I ended up replacing half of it myself (with parts they sent out) only for the bloody thing to still not work properly...wasn't too happy.

    That said, I got a new one, and am as happy as larry :D

    I support Windows for a living, it's nice to know that when I get home my computer will be working as expected.
  17. AmericanIdiot12 macrumors regular

    Dec 30, 2004
    Down the street from Jiv3turkey748
    when i first got my mac mini i had a usb 802.11b adapter that was supposedly compatible with osx but wasnt

    it made my computer freeze after about 10 minutes of uptime and i couldnt figure out what it was and almost considered sending the mac mini back
  18. yenko macrumors 6502a

    Aug 29, 2005
    Repaired PC's part time, but always used Macs. PC's are so frustrating, I finally gave up my customer base just to get back my sanity.

    I'm all better now.

    You could tell us in some detail what you're doing, the kind of machine you have, and perhaps, the software you're trying to install or are using and maybe we could help you. :)

    It could be a hardware problem or a software problem. There may be a solution to this dilema if you could be more specific. ;)
  19. iGary Guest


    May 26, 2004
    Randy's House
    I should have gotten a 30-inch and 20-inch monitor. Two 20's isn't sufficent.

    Other than that, no. My G5 seems a little fussy at times and I have to shut it down every now and again to get it to behave (might have something to do with a thousand image files going through it a day), but I don't regret it at all.

    Loved and still love all my Macs.
  20. mrgreen4242 macrumors 601


    Feb 10, 2004
    My 17" iMac G5 (1st gen) was equally craptastic. When I (finally) got it home I hooked it up and it was SO AMAZINGLY LOUD anytime I tried to do anything more than check my email. Then the HDD went bad. Then it had the problem with the faulty capacitors bulging/bursting.

    I finally traded it for the mini and LCD in my sig and haven't looked back. It's a great machine. Sure, it's marginally slower and slightly less upgradable, but who cares? It works flawless for everything I want to do. My next Apple will be an Intel based iBook. :)
  21. lexfuzo macrumors 6502

    Mar 15, 2005
    The heart of Europe

    when I feel to be completely at Apple's mercy I miss the freedom I had with Linux.
    However, they peacefully coexist side by side under my desk, so there's no big grief...
  22. aalberto macrumors newbie

    Sep 2, 2005
    I purchased a PowerMac G4 (Sawtooth), bought 768Mb of additional RAM, purchased a DVD burner, and installed MacOS X Tiger, plus all of the programs that I normally use in my PC (Yahoo Messenger, Netscape 7.2, QuarkXPress, etc.) - it runs as fast as my old PC (850Mhz Athlon processor running WinXP). I'm EXTREMELY proud of it!
  23. prophet621 thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 31, 2005
    I bought an ibook about three weeks ago after considering it for about a year and deciding to get it to learn another OS for work purposes. I asked a few questions on this board, read dozens and dozens of posts and talked to friends who have a mac. I decided I want something portable so I’m not stuck in front of my desk all the time and I really have no more room for another desktop computer since I already have 3, 2 running Windows and one running Gentoo. I was concerned about the speed of the ibooks as I have a Toshiba laptop P4 2.4 already and was told over and over again that because of the OS and the architecture the 1.5 G4 would be comparable in speed. My fault for not looking into other sources but it’s much slower.

    I’ve re-installed the OS twice so far because it gets sluggish and unresponsive to the point where it’s unusable and any attempts to fix it from suggestions here or elseware hasn’t worked at all. I had to restart it at the very least of once a day because it would suddenly drop the wireless signal or apps would take several minutes to open, wifes games she downloaded from Apple would suddenly stop working, never did get it to properly play .avi or .wmv files (tried flip4mac and very media player anyone recommended), pointer would hop across the screen rather than fluidly move. Typing posts or replies in forums or emails would get painfully slow. Letters would start appearing 4 or 5 words after I typed them. Browsing is just slow anyway.

    Naturally I tried to repair permissions, changed power setting to best performance. I also did a few other things from posts I found on this board and other sites though I can't remember exactly what I did. The most recent install I left off lots of stuff I don't use or like (garage, iphoto and the trial software) and it seemed to be running ok the last time I tried it which was a few days ago.

    I did add a gig of memory from crucial and it does show up as having 1.5 gigs.

    Not sure what else to say. I'd hate to have to send it off and wait for Apple to fix it. There is a mac service center not far from my house but I stopped in one day to ask a few questions about the mac architecture and they seemed to know less than I did.

    I don't mean to complain about it so much, just really dissapointed and needed to vent.
  24. Arnaud macrumors 6502

    May 24, 2005
    The Moon

    Right now, I'm VERY unhappy about Apple and my last machine, an iMac G5 1.8GHz 20", which hasn't stopped annoying me since I bought it in last January. :mad:

    I had perfect experiences with my successive Apple IIe, Mac LC, Mac Classic II, Quadra 610, PM 4400 (upgraded to G3) and PB3400, but the last one, urk...

    First: you smile, open the box, set the beautiful machine on your desk, plug, start, blink, and wonder what the f*** is this noise. As has been the subject of many threads so far, the commercial "whisper quiet" argument is a joke. The processor performance can soften the problem with the following equation: less performance <=> less noise. Great deal.
    (NB: I checked all the threads, here and elsewhere, no faulty parts with this machine regarding the fans etc).

    Second: when you surrender to the situation and adapt your room to the computer (and not the opposite), then the software starts to play funky. Increasing beachballs and delays. I reinstalled the whole system last month, with a full re-format of the internal HD; this afternoon the system crashes when trying to send pictures by email; after that, half of the software doesn't work; Pram/Permissions/fsck: fsck becomes hyperactive with my faulty HD (???), after what Mail is back, but in Dutch on my first account and in Spanish on the second one. Big mess here, which means I have to reinstall again the full software. And honnestly, I've got better things to do with my evenings.
    (NB: I checked all the threads around for these problems, got most answers from everyone, tried everything, without much of an improvement as of today. And I also find it weird that what should be the best OS in the world needs high maintenance skills, with the periodic tasks to be done etc, I mean, I want to use my machine, not spend hours fixing it ! )

    I'd like to sell the whole thing (despite the loss over one year) and get something else, but I don't even know what ? I tried PC for one year, and, er, I just can't (but I tried !).
    On the Apple line, I'm afraid of getting a noisy item again... (and I wouldn't want to go down to G4, btw).

    ...Because of the HUGE time on the forums, I've seen an important loss of quality-control in the products of Apple in the last couple of years for many users: noise issues, faulty pieces, unstable updates, unfriendly Apple repair service, etc... Am I the only one to think so ? Could it be Apple is producing too much, forgetting the clients, only seeing iPod targets ?

    Or maybe it's our generation: my buying-cycle seems to be repetitive: buy / use / find a major flaw / warranty / get it fixed; nothing seems to work straight-out-of-the-box anymore ? My own examples go beyond Apple:
    - camera Sony DSC-F828, problems after 1 month (CF card), fixed after 11 months;
    - printer Canon Pixma 5000, problems after 1 day (color), fixed (or not?) after 2 months;
    - widescreen TV Sony, problems after 1 month (weird stripes), fixed after 6 months ("keep it away from the wireless phone base");
    - Toyota Rav-4 (!), problems after 1 month (does not always start!), half-fixed after 2 years;
    - etc etc etc...
    Heck, anything with electronics in it...

    Mmm, if nobody agrees with me, I guess I'll end up with the title of Most-Unlucky-Man-In-The-World... but well, I also have other things in my life than electronics :)
  25. Arnaud macrumors 6502

    May 24, 2005
    The Moon
    We Apple-complainers should all meet one day in a pub somewhere over the planet, get beers or gin tonics or fanta's, and spend a couple of hours complaining about Apple with (blasphematory) comments...

    Then we'd all go home, satisfied of having expressed our dissatisfaction, and tomorrow would be a better day... Maybe all would even work better with our machines...

    Apple Group Therapy ?

    Bah, despite the drinks, that's pretty much what we already do here, with the good balance of the good things too :)


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