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snowboarder

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WTF Apple? After the latest "update" I'm unable to play anything from my Macbook Pro on my Apple TV.
Constant choking. The fastest internet available. Seriously? Can you make anything right these days?
 
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winstars

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Internet speed is irrelevant in your usecase.

In recent weeks when I Airplay something from my MBP to TV via Apple TV, its stutters, consistently... This never happened in the past IMHO...

Why would speed be irrelevant for this issue?
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dkddkd

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In recent weeks when I Airplay something from my MBP to TV via Apple TV, its stutters, consistently... This never happened in the past IMHO...

Why would speed be irrelevant for this issue?
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MacBook Pro <-> Router / Wireless Access Point <-> AppleTV ... the "Internet" is not part of the equation, only the Home Network that snowboarder has their equipment running on, thus the statement "the fastest internet available" is not relevant to this specific use case ... the speed/bandwidth of the local wired/wireless network could be relevant, but that isn't what snowboarder referenced in their posting ...
 

HDFan

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Test your local network speed, not the speed provided by your ISP, by using a program such as Lakehorns' Network Speed Tester. You run a server program on your Mac (or other Apple Device), and the client app on your Apple TV, iPad, iPhone etc. This gives you the speed on your local network. If the values are low then you know you have to look at your router connection.


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snowboarder

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Sorry guys, you might be right that internet speed is not important.
What's important that with the same setup everything used to work beautifully.
Then after each update of my Apple TV, choking has increased.
Especially with larger files. So it's unable to do what it used to do without any issues ->
software updates ruined it

It's crazy, Airplay is the main use of Apple TV for me and it's pretty much useless right now.

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priitv8

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It's crazy, Airplay is the main use of Apple TV for me and it's pretty much useless right now.
Can you turn it over to HomeSharing?
I have been using it for years with appleTVs from 3rd onward and have not experienced any problems.
I have them wired and my server is still iTunes on Mojave.But tvOS is the latest.
 
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winstars

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MacBook Pro <-> Router / Wireless Access Point <-> AppleTV ... the "Internet" is not part of the equation, only the Home Network that snowboarder has their equipment running on, thus the statement "the fastest internet available" is not relevant to this specific use case ... the speed/bandwidth of the local wired/wireless network could be relevant, but that isn't what snowboarder referenced in their posting ...

So recently, standup comedians have been doing and selling shows on Zoom for $20. So I buy a ticket and at showtime I get it going perfectly on my MBP both audio and video in perfect sync...
I then want to Airplay to my 2020 Samsung TV via ATV 4k... So while its playing perfectly on MBP, the audio is about 1 second behind and the video is 3 seconds behind on my Samsung... So I turned off Airplay and watched it on my MBP.

So if my super fast internet is not the issue what do you think my problem is. Brand new WiFi 6 router, I understand the ATV 4k and MBP are not WiFi 6 but the router is strong signal wise etc....

This is a recent issue, I have not had this stuttering problem in the past...
 

snowboarder

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what do you think my problem is

Read the title of this thread... Apple for some reason can't write good code anymore.
Catalina, latest iOS, all been a disaster. AppleTV is horrible too, just not too many people pay attention.
 

HDFan

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So if my super fast internet is not the issue what do you think my problem is. Brand new WiFi 6 router, I understand the ATV 4k and MBP are not WiFi 6 but the router is strong signal wise etc....

Have you tested as per post #5? Just because it is WiFi 6 and you have a strong signal doesn't necessarily mean that it is fast.
 

winstars

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Have you tested as per post #5? Just because it is WiFi 6 and you have a strong signal doesn't necessarily mean that it is fast.

I have not yet had the time to test as per your previous post. If I do and find "that my values are low" how would I look at my router connection as a problem?
 

waw74

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Try the speedtest app on the aTV, even though it measures to an outside server it can still help you diagnose. If the reported speed is way below what you expect to see from your provider, it means the wifi connection between your aTV and the router is not so good.

**Have you rebooted your router? and all network gear?
any time you start having network slowdowns, this should be the first step you try.
sometimes the multicast packets that airplay and a lot of other things on your network use can bog down a wireless router.
I have my wireless set to reboot every other day, because It starts to slow down. I'm using Unifi, which you see in corporate setups.
ISP provided routers have notoriously bad wifi to start with, and there is also the possibility it's starting to die.

I have a few 4k HDR movie files, the biggest of them are about 40GB, even at 40Mb a second, they will do a direct transfer in about 2 hours, meaning it should play fine, even at that low speed, since it can transfer the entire file in less time than it takes to play it.

**Have you moved anything in your setup or house?
router, aTV, TV, furniture?
My aTV is wired now, in the past I've had it on wireless, and mounted on the back of the TV, I know a couple times I had to move it, as I think I had it too close to the wifi in the TV, and they were causing problems for each other.
Try to imagine a straight line from your router to the aTV, through walls and anything else, if there's anything very dense or made of metal, you might want to try moving
You also don't say if your computer is wired or wireless. If you're wireless, the aTV and Mac both talk to the router, and not directly to each other. So if the Mac and aTV are close, but the router is 2 rooms away, your sending that video file over 2 poor wireless hops.

**have you tried separating your bands? (separate 2.4 and 5gHz names for your networks)
even though 5 is faster, it doesn't go through physical obstacles as well, So depending on your particular setup and home layout, your aTV might get faster signal with 2.4. And with separate names you can force the one you want. The automatic switching is pretty good in most situations, but not all.

AppleTV is horrible too, just not too many people pay attention.
or maybe other people aren't having problems.

of all my apple devices, the aTV is one of the most stable
my only complaint is the physical design of the remote.

my biggest disappointment is the HomePod.
with the latest software update this week, it's gone deaf. I've heard "I'm sorry, I didn't quite get that" about 5 times in the last 4 days. I might have heard that once or twice in all the time before the last update.
She also is cutting me off mid sentence a lot more. Where she'll just hear the first half of a command and act on that. even though I did't pause between words.
 
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HDFan

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I have not yet had the time to test as per your previous post. If I do and find "that my values are low" how would I look at my router connection as a problem?

Not sure if I understand your question. If the local network connection is slower than required by the Apple TV streaming app you are using then you are going to have problems. It then becomes an issue of finding the bottleneck in your network - your MacBook Pro, router, cables, etc.
 
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