Supposedly, from other reports and findings, the AppleTV 4K 3rd Gen, is "capable" of 120Hz, but it is NOT enabled...Current Apple TVs are not capable of 4K@120hz and their audio tech limitations have left a lot to be desired by a meaningful amount of home theatre enthusiasts—myself included.
It’s likely that Apple is using up the pile of binned/unused A17pro chips in the iPad Mini and new Apple TV 4K rather than continuing to make more chips.Someone correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the A17Pro the most expensive process currently being used by Apple/TSMC? Wouldn't it make more sense to use a newer chip on the N3P node? That way, like the Neo, they can used binned chips that would otherwise be waste.
I’m not sure what it will do for the Apple TV itself (Apple can surprise us), but it’s more likely to be about what it can enable on other devices around the home. Perhaps all the HomePods you’ve obviously got will be able to use the new Siri, perhaps HomeKit routines will be smarter and more adaptive to what is happening in your home or you will be able to set up home automations with natural language. Let’s see.But for what purpose?
What will it allow the Apple TV to actually do that it can’t now?
I think it's dependant on the TV's age. Ive got a Sony A1 OLED that I bought 8 years ago. So whilst the hardware is great, expected loss of brightness after all these years, but zero burn-in, Android has been a horrible experience. It's become very slow and some Apps have killed the experience and even Netflix requires a few stabs at the remote on occasion.My Sony is not garbage. It’s fast, has all the apps that are available for ATV (minus Apple Music and Photos, but has Airplay2), it’s accurate and the apps update frequently. We rarely use the ATV4K anymore.
Yes! Exactly what I posted also. Well, more so asking if there's been any change in this regard since the last seven years. Back then I did buy an Apple TV but returned it as the processing was happening through this, rather than my AVR.Don't care for any of those features. What I really want is pass through audio support.
Don't care for any of those features. What I really want is pass through audio support.
The biggest problem with Apple TV box is not the hardware but the software. No one inside Apple knows what to do with it nor how to solve the "same old app grid as any other device" UI problem. That's why it hasn't been updated.
Overall the Apple TV works but it is a rather boring product. I would love to see some innovation on this platform.
Software or hardware, it matters not. They're just no doing it! And this was the sole reason I quickly returned the 4k Apple TV many a moons ago.That’s a software choice that doesn’t require new hardware. Apple could implement that today if they wanted too
Software or hardware, it matters not. They're just no doing it! And this was the sole reason I quickly returned the 4k Apple TV many a moons ago.
Ok gotcha where you're coming from.That’s totally fair. I’m thinking about it in response to answers about people want to see in new Apple TV hardware. In that context the distinction does matter
And in fact that app grid is key because a big point for Apple is to keep various devices UI very similar so that the learning curve for a new device is very low.What wrong with app grid UI?
I don’t see the problem
I always find comments like his a bit odd and your response is reasonable. The point of any device is to do all that you want as easily as possible. It's not to wow other than being wowed that it was so easy to do what all that I want. So when you suggest changes you first have to be able to articulate just what you want to do that it can't yet or what it does but with too much difficulty.Like what ?Overall the Apple TV works but it is a rather boring product. I would love to see some innovation on this platform.
What do you want it to do?
spec bumping for what? The ATV does everything it needs to do so no need to update it for a long time.
So that when people need to buy one, they aren't paying top dollar for old hardware that will have less support.
Theoretically yes, but Apple aren't going to support it indefinitely based on their history of ATV support.The current Apple TV could theoretically be supported indefinitely as a set top box
I work in education, we use ATVs - I held off purchasing from November 2025 in the hope that the new model would come out as I didn't want to purchase 6x ATVs with already dated hardware, but wasn't able to hold off any longer by mid June. Budgets are tight and I try to be as economic as possible, and part of this is purchasing devices which will last as long as possible through software updates, but when there is a requirement for a piece of technology and Apple hasn't bothered updating hardware, the luxury of waiting for a new model isn't always there. Same goes for people who for example have their old ATV stop working.If anyone needed one they should have bought it before the price increase, unfortunately
I work in education, we use ATVs - I held off purchasing from November 2025 in the hope that the new model would come out as I didn't want to purchase 6x ATVs with already dated hardware, but wasn't able to hold off any longer by mid June. Budgets are tight and I try to be as economic as possible, and part of this is purchasing devices which will last as long as possible through software updates, but when there is a requirement for a piece of technology and Apple hasn't bothered updating hardware, the luxury of waiting for a new model isn't always there. Same goes for people who for example have their old ATV stop working.
So that when people need to buy one, they aren't paying top dollar for old hardware that will have less support.
Theoretically yes, but Apple aren't going to support it indefinitely based on their history of ATV support.
I'd say that spec bumping every couple of years resets the clock for Apple hardware support - it's this that dictates the accompanying software support. If Apple don't have to provide spare parts then they are less likely - if at all - to continue software support.You'll likely expect a maximum of 5 years support from when a device is discontinued (but there are always exceptions in Apple's hardware history where a device has been on sale for so long that the hardware can't support what the software needs to do).I work in education, we use ATVs - I held off purchasing from November 2025 in the hope that the new model would come out as I didn't want to purchase 6x ATVs with already dated hardware, but wasn't able to hold off any longer by mid June. Budgets are tight and I try to be as economic as possible, and part of this is purchasing devices which will last as long as possible through software updates, but when there is a requirement for a piece of technology and Apple hasn't bothered updating hardware, the luxury of waiting for a new model isn't always there. Same goes for people who for example have their old ATV stop working.
If they made sure to at least spec bump the ATV every two years with a newer processor, it would mean less people getting older hardware.