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Everything New in iOS 15 Beta 4: Safari Tweaks, MagSafe Battery Pack Support, Notification Updates and More
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The only way to improve Safari in iOS 15 is to roll it back to iOS 14 Safari.
I rolled back to iOS 14 just because of Safari. Yes, I think it's that much of a downgrade.
Given how Apple has already backpedaled on MacOS and iPadOS it’s only a matter of time before they drop the hubris act and move it back to the top.
The Apple people were whining that some of their "best work" was done because they could work from home last year.
Go back to the office. This is not anybody's best.
Go back to the office. This is not anybody's best.
I really wasn’t keen on the Safari changes in Beta 1 but I’m definitely starting to get on board with it. Little tweaks in each beta improving the experience. Now Safari in macOS monterey… that’s a whole different story.
A right to left swipe on the lock screen switches to the camera App.
The (…) button made more sense. Reload, Reader, Copy etc aren’t shareable actions. Share has over the years turned into a catch all. If anything, the (…) “more” button was an improvement.
I had to enable the auto hide feature in settings. If it hadn’t been mentioned in these sorts of articles I wouldn’t have even known they added it.
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I feel like they aren’t really spending the time to think through the user experience for Safari. They’re like randomly changing design elements on the fly without refining new introductions. It feels like design without intention.
The buttons are just too darn small
The (…) button made more sense. Reload, Reader, Copy etc aren’t shareable actions. Share has over the years turned into a catch all. If anything, the (…) “more” button was an improvement.
not noticing a stuttering issue on my iPhone 12.
As to the point about the Safari design not making sense, I have to agree. Having so many different elements that swipe sideways and up, and tiny little buttons, just shows a lack of thoughtfulness.
It reminds me of Microsoft switching to the ribbon interface in office, stuff that was easily accessible was now lost in a sea of different panes, with varying sizes of icons and drop-down menus, even after years I still lose functions that we are easier to access 20 years ago.
I’m all for elegant, simple design, but not when practicality and usability takes almost a complete back seat for it.
I’ll give them some forgiveness because it’s beta, but to your point, things are getting crazy.
Go to Tab Groups, click Edit…
Huh… okay.
Wait, what? What am I even editing?
If you go deep enough I assume you loop back around to the lockscreen.
You’re editing the tab groups. If you‘ve gotten that far, you will have seen that you can add more tab groups. You haven’t added any so there’s nothing to edit beyond the default tab group and the private group.
Let’s be straightforward: iOS is years past being intuitive to a complete novice. This ain’t the days of everything that you can do being visible all at once. These are far more complex devices that do a whole lot more than the OG iPhone and they have to have a complex iOS to match. Advanced features need to be learned.
iOS 15 introduces a new way of getting around a browser. I didn’t get it in the first little while because muscle memory kept overriding what I intended to do, but after a couple of days, it all made perfect sense.
People don’t generally like change because most people like being comfortable. But great things don’t happen without a little discomfort and adaptations. iOS 15 cleans up a lot of the cruft of piled on functions and their menus that have accumulated over the years. It needs to be done. Hopefully Apple doesn’t chicken out and goes back to the comfortable, but messy, paradigm.
I just want the website settings button back on the other side and I’ll be happy.
You are obviously missing the dry humor, but along the way you were able to be condescending and imply that I’m an idiot that is resistant to change.
Lighten up and please take the attitude somewhere else.
It's awful. On my ipad I find it very difficult to select tabs at all. Please give us an option to just use the old layout. This is Googleitis, the propensity to change things cosmetically for no good reason.
Well, to be fair, I think their reasoning is for accessibility. It’s just that these changes mainly benefit folks with a “Max” model iPhone. And for what little that may help them, it breaks so much more for everyone else.
To call the current state of Safari 15 on iOS a Dumpster Fire, IMO, would be an understatement. Remember all of the changes in Mail.app during the iOS 14 betas? I still miss the Empty Trash option in Mail.
