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Once my Intel Macs are sunset, I’ll be leaving, at least in part, the computer side of the iApple ecosystem …

Slowly butt Shirley
Already started, prior to 2018 only Apple devices, now 2 Macs (that are not obsolete), 2 Windows 11 and 2 Linux.

If I did not have to support some iPhone Apps, I think I'd be moving on.
 
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I personally know more people that have went from iOS to Android. I know of a couple people that switched in the last couple months. 🤷🏻‍♂️

That said, use whatever you want. It doesn't matter these days.
Unfortunately true. Cook's cost cutting in favor of enriching stock value has removed almost all of Apple's hard won benefits. Now Apple is just an also run tech company that fails at delivery more than they succeed.
 
Carplay not connecting, Hume scale not working, can't find the device for pairing .....is Bluetooth broken in this release?
 
so what you're saying is 26.4 went from this incredible packed rumored release initially months ago.... to new emojis.... how very apple.
 
too much of that and people will switch to android
When you do be prepared to spend an hour deleting or turning off the spyware. I speak from experience. 🙄
Google is truly desperate to know where you are at all times. The settings you need to shutdown the worst of the spying are hidden in multiple menus, they don't make it easy and they'll turn on again at the next update.

Still the $400 price difference was worth some effort on my part.
 
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There are 3,953 emoji, using 1438 characters, spread out across 24 blocks. Can you find the 3 you use?
 
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Yet people keep sticking with Apple.
Ehh i don’t think we are looking for excitement from the phone itself anymore.

I do miss those simpler times. But it’s a good problem to have that we are content with what we have I guess. It’s not like the S26u was earth shattering
 
They could decide not to support all the characters (emoji or otherwise) added to the Unicode character set.

They could also decide to not bother supporting all the letters in the English language.

Neither move would make them particularly popular.

The emoji are being added to the Unicode standard. Apple could say, "well, we're only going to partially support the standard" - nobody is forcing them to support the standard, but then when people on other platforms (Android, Windows, etc.) sent messages or text of any sort that contains the characters that Apple chose not to support, recipients on Apple platforms would see a little "(character missing)" box in place of each one of those characters in the document/message/whatever, and would complain that Apple devices were broken.

If you want to stop the rate at which emoji are getting added to Unicode, you need to talk to the emoji working group in the Unicode Consortium. Complaining to, or about, Apple, doesn't help the situation. (And this comes up every single time that MacRumors mentions new emoji in a new release of Apple software of any sort.)
Thanks for the explanation!
I did not say anything about “stop the rate”, neither did I complain to or about Apple in this context. Just asked a question and was not sure ( > “seems”) about whether there was an implication or not. I have no issues with Applemojis. My favorite one is 😊, followed by ☕️ .
 
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There are 3,953 emoji, using 1438 characters, spread out across 24 blocks. Can you find the 3 you use?
If you want a particular one, it's fairly easy to use the search feature in the emoji section of the keyboard (on iOS and iPadOS), and it keeps the ones you've used recently at the front of the list. So I have no trouble finding the ones I want (including my top 3).

If I want to get to arbitrary non-emoji Unicode characters (this also works for emoji characters) on my iPhone or iPad, I use an app on both called Unicode Pad Pro which lets you look up any Unicode character by name or code block (it can also add an alternate keyboard for getting to arbitrary characters within other apps, but I don't bother with that - I'd rather just have the US English and Emoji keyboards to swap between). And for the most common non-emoji Unicode characters I might want, I have a text substitution set up (a standard feature of macOS/iOS/iPadOS keyboards), so I can type "!uu" and get this (and then cut/paste the characters I want and delete the rest - inelegant, but simple to maintain):

©®℗™°¢µ‽℅№§¶†‡·•‣✓⅛¼⅜½⅝¾⅞⅓⅔±×÷≠≈∞¬∴⌘⌥⌃⇧⏎↑→↓←△□○✕​
 
ppl nowadays being iPhone cuz it is easy to sell on the second market and they keeping value pretty good, be honest guys)
Honestly? I use iPhones nowadays because they integrate perfectly with my iPad, Mac, Apple TV, AirPods, Apple TV, HomePod mini, etc. The ecosystem plays well together. I use them for a very long time (current is an iPhone 16 Pro, previous was an iPhone 8), and then generally either trade them in or recycle them - not to get lots of money back, just being responsible. I don't care about the resale value, because I use it until way past the point where it would have substantial resale value. To me it is irresponsible to be continually trading up to a new phone. Your use case is not everyone's use case (neither is mine).
 
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Honestly? I use iPhones nowadays because they integrate perfectly with my iPad, Mac, Apple TV, AirPods, Apple TV, HomePod mini, etc. The ecosystem plays well together. I use them for a very long time (current is an iPhone 16 Pro, previous was an iPhone 8), and then generally either trade them in or recycle them - not to get lots of money back, just being responsible. I don't care about the resale value, because I use it until way past the point where it would have substantial resale value. To me it is irresponsible to be continually trading up to a new phone. Your use case is not everyone's use case (neither is mine).
I understand that perfectly. But ask yourself, would you able to do the same staff as you doing in ecosystem with other devices in your pool if you switch iPhone to the Android. Answer is yes, you can perfectly control all of your automations in Apple ecosystem with your iPad , Mac, HomePod etc… Your Apple ecosystem will work perfectly fine without you iPhone in the pocket )


So what’s really stoping you to try another OS in your hand? Answer is a value of the device in your hand, old habit and maybe too scary to go outside the box ? Ask this question to yourself
 
I understand that perfectly. But ask yourself, would you able to do the same staff as you doing in ecosystem with other devices in your pool if you switch iPhone to the Android. Answer is yes, you can perfectly control all of your automations in Apple ecosystem with your iPad , Mac, HomePod etc… Your Apple ecosystem will work perfectly fine without you iPhone in the pocket )

So what’s really stoping you to try another OS in your hand? Answer is a value of the device in your hand, old habit and maybe too scary to go outside the box ? Ask this question to yourself
Got it, you're a True Believer, not someone to have a reasoned conversation with. I explained in detail why I stay with iPhones, you seemingly acknowledged my viewpoint ("I understand you perfectly" rings false given the rest of your message), and then you totally disregard what I've said and proceed to try to convert me to your Android religion.

Here's three things that keep me from switching to Android: (1) it would be a needless expense for me - I'm pretty well set for the next 3-5 years. (2) it would integrate less well with the rest of my gear in my ecosystem of choice - you acknowledge this yourself by explaining how I could lean on my other devices to control automations and such. (3) it would mean repurchasing (at best) or finding replacements for, dozens of apps that I use every day (this would entail researching all the available apps, and deciding what compromises I could live with or work around vs. what apps simply would not meet my needs, and having to adapt to the new software, all for no substantial benefit to me).

I gain substantial benefit out of being able to pick up any of my devices (iPhone, Apple Watch, iPad, Mac) and use the same apps (often Apple-ecosystem-only apps) that I've carefully chosen over the years. Many of those are not available on Android. In many cases, I would end up having to use one app on Android and a different app on all my other devices, with no data sharing between the two - when I had only my Android phone with me, I would be cut off from quite a bit of my data. A big part of why I went with the iPhone in the first place was to have constant seamless access to all my data.

And this is without even getting into the point that Android would entail dealing with Google more - their OS, their apps, their websites. I consciously moved away from Google long ago because they're a company with a history of doing creepy things. I'm not scared of Google, and Android, as you suggest, I made a choice, after careful consideration, to avoid them.

And your "too scary to go outside the box" is somewhere between laughable and insulting - I've used more different hardware and operating systems over the decades than you can possibly imagine. I'm not afraid of new tech, but I also not persuaded to leap upon something simply because it's lauded by someone as new tech.

Here's the one "benefit" of me switching to Android: it would make you happy. Like you got another convert. Do you get a gold star or a pat on the head or something if you get five converts? Sell your religion somewhere else, I'm not buying. I too pains to be polite the first time I explained that and you ignored my reasoning and substituted in the reasons that you wanted to argue against, and then went about responding to your substituted reasons as if they were my own. One of the signs of a True Believer.
 
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Got it, you're a True Believer, not someone to have a reasoned conversation with. I explained in detail why I stay with iPhones, you seemingly acknowledged my viewpoint ("I understand you perfectly" rings false given the rest of your message), and then you totally disregard what I've said and proceed to try to convert me to your Android religion.

Here's three things that keep me from switching to Android: (1) it would be a needless expense for me - I'm pretty well set for the next 3-5 years. (2) it would integrate less well with the rest of my gear in my ecosystem of choice - you acknowledge this yourself by explaining how I could lean on my other devices to control automations and such. (3) it would mean repurchasing (at best) or finding replacements for, dozens of apps that I use every day (this would entail researching all the available apps, and deciding what compromises I could live with or work around vs. what apps simply would not meet my needs, and having to adapt to the new software, all for no substantial benefit to me).

I gain substantial benefit out of being able to pick up any of my devices (iPhone, Apple Watch, iPad, Mac) and use the same apps (often Apple-ecosystem-only apps) that I've carefully chosen over the years. Many of those are not available on Android. In many cases, I would end up having to use one app on Android and a different app on all my other devices, with no data sharing between the two - when I had only my Android phone with me, I would be cut off from quite a bit of my data. A big part of why I went with the iPhone in the first place was to have constant seamless access to all my data.

And this is without even getting into the point that Android would entail dealing with Google more - their OS, their apps, their websites. I consciously moved away from Google long ago because they're a company with a history of doing creepy things. I'm not scared of Google, and Android, as you suggest, I made a choice, after careful consideration, to avoid them.

And your "too scary to go outside the box" is somewhere between laughable and insulting - I've used more different hardware and operating systems over the decades than you can possibly imagine. I'm not afraid of new tech, but I also not persuaded to leap upon something simply because it's lauded by someone as new tech.

Here's the one "benefit" of me switching to Android: it would make you happy. Like you got another convert. Do you get a gold star or a pat on the head or something if you get five converts? Sell your religion somewhere else, I'm not buying. I too pains to be polite the first time I explained that and you ignored my reasoning and substituted in the reasons that you wanted to argue against, and then went about responding to your substituted reasons as if they were my own. One of the signs of a True Believer.
Sir, I see and completely understand your point of view. Just a lil to be clear, I’m not also an Android user mainly on my personal daily basis) Thank you for the informative answer, I respect that.

/written on 18.7.3
 
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