no, at that point it would go rogue and raid your pension pot and crash the market by ordering all the rolls available, while repeating '****, or get off the pot' in Terminator voice.
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no, at that point it would go rogue and raid your pension pot and crash the market by ordering all the rolls available, while repeating '****, or get off the pot' in Terminator voice.
cjsuk
macrumors 68020
Talking to some friends about this yesterday. If you had to choose between an OpenAI phone and a Trump phone, what would you choose?
Unanimously the Trump phone is less creepy and that was hard for people to deal with on its own 🤣
Unanimously the Trump phone is less creepy and that was hard for people to deal with on its own 🤣
Looks like their own. MR: Altman posted on X that it "feels like a good time to seriously rethink how operating systems and user interfaces are designed."
iPay
macrumors 6502
Soon enough, we'll be the human peripheral of the AI inside the phone. These UI /UX elements will juste be the tips of their data milking machines.
Shalev Lazarof
Contributor
Never gonna happen, ai is a backend technology.
iPay
macrumors 6502
Methinks they don't want to make better phones than X or Y. They crave exclusive user data and full device control (phone, car, whaterver...) to juice it to the last bit, which can't be obtained with an app on someone else's hardware.
iPay
macrumors 6502
Well, this may happen as soon as AI agents can earn and spend money, which is not overly dystopic. When there's money, market finds a way, as they say.
jlnr
macrumors regular
This is honestly a great explanation of why many high-level executives will consider this a good idea. I guess this is also why it is called an "iPhone rival", because Android is for normies?
Speaking of us normies, I don't really see how OpenAI will overcome the (unfair) moat of the iOS/Android duopoly. Who will convince every single bank, government service, insurance company etc. to integrate with the OpenAI phone? You can't borrow enough money to bribe all of them at once. Sure, they could include an Android emulator, but many of these apps refuse to work on anything but 100% vanilla devices from known vendors.
patent10021
macrumors 68040
_apple_apple_
macrumors regular
Wild guess:
- It'll be a smallish square with rounded corners, no buttons/ports, no right-side up, possibly no camera bump. front/back cameras pushed to corners.
- possibly built-in swivel kickstand, maybe motorized, some way of reliably standing up so both cameras can see
- no native UI, just chromium + AI generated HTML
- lanyard attachment point on all corners for wrist/neck straps for potential wearability
- square-shaped accessories (earbuds) that probably snap to the side, since people are used to rectangles anyways. Maybe a bumper that holds it all together
Basically a 'cute' square that you plop down and talk to, has a digital face, it can show you stuff when relevant
- It'll be a smallish square with rounded corners, no buttons/ports, no right-side up, possibly no camera bump. front/back cameras pushed to corners.
- possibly built-in swivel kickstand, maybe motorized, some way of reliably standing up so both cameras can see
- no native UI, just chromium + AI generated HTML
- lanyard attachment point on all corners for wrist/neck straps for potential wearability
- square-shaped accessories (earbuds) that probably snap to the side, since people are used to rectangles anyways. Maybe a bumper that holds it all together
Basically a 'cute' square that you plop down and talk to, has a digital face, it can show you stuff when relevant
Shalev Lazarof
Contributor
I don't see this ever to happen, why? because I don't see regular people (99% of customers) put their trust in a "computer" to "do things" with their money.
It was always dumb to try to make a non-phone device.
It’s almost as dumb to try and make a phone.
Jony and Sam have no ideas.
It’s almost as dumb to try and make a phone.
Jony and Sam have no ideas.
LionTeeth
macrumors 6502
only that this doesn't even sound like a phone, and frankly making actual phone calls is probably the least anyone uses them for, and as to 'same', what else do you expect when there's thin and thinner, big and bigger, expensive and stupid expensive already? me, I just want one that fits in my pocket and lasts 10 years on average.
LionTeeth
macrumors 6502
It's not 2005 anymore, what are you expecting? Like what would satisfy your craving for crazy smartphone designs?
Comments like these never make any sense. It's a mature market, the best designs have been discovered and refined.
Well, Apple silicon revolutionized laptops battery expectations in an even more mature market.
I’m sure they’re clever and can come up with new stuff as well. And maybe indeed they should disrupt current market, people seem to get sick from staring at these addictive devices, could be something that’s more hands and eyes off that actually connects people with people and the surrounding real world.
KRiWOLF
macrumors newbie
I knew AI as many things before LLMs came to the masses- it had always been 'narrow' not stupid.
However, I think most of the more common LLM chatbots, image/video/text generative models etc. available today are stupid- because they are unreliable, abhorrently energy intensive and divert water supply out of already constrained systems, taint it and dump it back out.
Also, many violate IP and copyrights, and create other ethical concerns (people decide those, not just by the law).
Not all AIs are the same, and many of the problems are actually corporate greed and eroded regulations, rather than the technology itself. And yet, despite these issues, companies proceed to push it..
I'd say many people don't want *most* AI stuff because it is being forced into places I don't want it, like the arts.
I would use ethical AI or ML tools to automate the parts that stall creativity (like repetitive technical stuff),
but I won't use generative models that essentially replace the control I have now - because that's the part of creation I enjoy, and it gives me purpose.
groove-agent
macrumors 68020
That’s good. We need another alternative to Android and IOS after Microsoft prematurely left the market.
LionTeeth
macrumors 6502
Just because I love discussing this stuff, and not because I have any issue with what you said lol: they didn't leave prematurely. They left at the accurate time but only because the WP platform had been mishandled and destroyed from within for years before that.
I could write an essay on what they did wrong. As much as I loved the platform, they ruined it every single step. Changing architecture several times, nonsensical developer enticements, zero development etc. buying Nokia was a good step but then they ran it into the ground releasing mid level phones, and so so slowly. By the time they released the final premium phone it was too late, despite things like using USB-C etc which at the time was ahead of the curve.
Then Satellite Nutella came in and chose to kill it instead of righting the ship, he sunk it on purpose. Dumba** of the century. Could've had a major revenue stream if done right.
But anyways, when it was killed it was sadly the right time. It was dead. Killed by idiots every step of the way making the wrong decision and showing zero knowledge of the smartphone market.