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Everything WRONG with the new Macbook Pro

HumpYourWayUp

HumpYourWayUp

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Getting all new Adapters is really a pain however USB-C is certainly more future proof than simple USB 3.
 
The obvious reason for lack of 32 gb ram s so that you can buy another one in 2 years when they raise the prices another $500

Steve Jobs may or may not have planned obsolescence, but Tim Crook has made it much more obvious and upped the price every time you need another
 
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jjiangweilan said:
How much more battery will a 32 RAM cost? I mean it seems like an excuse..
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It's because the capacity chips necessary for 32 GB in that form factor only come in DDR4 right now, not DDR3L. DDR4 uses more power than DDR3L, so Apple went with the lower maximum capacity / lower power DDR3L.

But, it also does sound like an excuse - DDR4 does use more power, but not so much that it should cause a significant cut in battery life... Apple has shown a willingness to go for performance over battery life before, going back to the first MacBook Pros that had "switchable graphics" - you could get only integrated graphics, or both integrated+discrete, where you would choose which one you would use, trading battery life for better graphics.
 
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It's because the capacity chips necessary for 32 GB in that form factor only come in DDR4 right now, not DDR3L. DDR4 uses more power than DDR3L, so Apple went with the lower maximum capacity / lower power DDR3L.

But, it also does sound like an excuse - DDR4 does use more power, but not so much that it should cause a significant cut in battery life... Apple has shown a willingness to go for performance over battery life before, going back to the first MacBook Pros that had "switchable graphics" - you could get only integrated graphics, or both integrated+discrete, where you would choose which one you would use, trading battery life for better graphics.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/9483/intel-skylake-review-6700k-6600k-ddr4-ddr3-ipc-6th-generation/7

DDR4 by default switches down to an operating voltage of 1.2 volts from 1.5 volts, making it more power efficient, and the standard increases the maximum capacity on an unbuffered memory module.
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DDR3l uses 1.35 and 1.5 volts, ddr4 is much more efficient while being faster.

Also, not having the ability to go 32 gb due to power is straight up ********. Each chip consumes the same amount of power. No chips use a super amount, you only get more power used if you add a second one. If you add a second ram chip you use twice the amount of ram power.

This is also true for ssds. Either way each ram chip doesn't add much power.
 
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Zellio said:
Either way each ram chip doesn't add much power.
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I guess you are right!
What pisses me off the most is that they again choose AMD as GPU provider :-(

For all my bitchin about the new MBP I have to admit that I ordered one... Still prefer Mac OS over any other operation system! And the surprise update of FCP X is amazing!
 
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HumpYourWayUp said:
I guess you are right!
What pisses me off the most is that they again choose AMD as GPU provider :-(

For all my bitchin about the new MBP I have to admit that I ordered one... Still prefer Mac OS over any other operation system! And the surprise update of FCP X is amazing!
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They could've gone with a GTX 1050ti, or even a 1060, but that would've cut into profits.

If they were so concerned about using 1 ram chip they could've gone ddr4, used one ram chip, and had an even better battery. But they didn't for the same reason they went AMD: It's cheaper to use ddr3l instead of ddr4. And yes, both are compatible with skylake.
 
HumpYourWayUp said:
Getting all new Adapters is really a pain however USB-C is certainly more future proof than simple USB 3.
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I think some of the gripes are a bit petty, because when ever the industry moves to a new port, like USB, there is some pain involved with early adopters and Apple has always been aggressive with adopting new ports and dropping old ones.

With that said, so many things that make an apple special has been removed over the years. Remember the glowing light in the front to signify that the computer was asleep - that was pure genius, now, no such indicator.

The glowing logo and chime were both features that made a mac special, both are gone (though you can use a terminal command to bring it back for the time being but I expect it to disappear fully as time goes on). How is the Mac different then any other laptop now? It used to be the small things, the attention to detail that made Macs special.

Given the price, I probably shouldn't get upset because, there's no way I'm willing to spend almost 3k for a 15" laptop
 
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maflynn said:
Given the price, I probably shouldn't get upset because, there's no way I'm willing to spend almost 3k for a 15" laptop
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LOL, good point.
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Zellio said:
They could've gone with a GTX 1050ti, or even a 1060, but that would've cut into profits.
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Exactly what I think - those cards offer better performance but AMD gave Apple a better price point - that is really sad for the user :-(

The more I think about it the more Apple behaves like Nintendo. They have a cult following but they use crappy components (at least in their laptops - Apples tablets and phones on the other hand do not have to fear comparison with the competition)

Just think of the AWFUL M370X they used in the 2015 MacBook Pro! A card that was more than a year old :-/
 
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