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Your assumption wasn't implied in your post and considering how many face palm inducing posts I've seen over a bunch of forums including MR like a guy asking if he can upgrade his current MBP from an i5 processor to an i7 processor at the same time saying that he needed the upgrade because he was going to be in a computer science program... :rolleyes: Well. Let's just say my faith in humanity isn't exactly at a high point right now lol.

I apologize then if you feel that I implied you were stupid.

Sorry for not being super in depth. I typed the original one as I was headed out to my lab.

I just wanted my point to at least get considered, as I do know it really sounds ridiculous that a reapplication of thermal paste should hurt. Of course it could be something else but I can't imagine what.
 
So why does Apple always do this? Now, if they do refresh the Pros sometime this month, we won't be able to take advantage of the back-to-school promotion, which gave us $100 in apps. Absolutely pathetic. And whatever happened to buy a mac, get a free iPod touch!!???

They don't. Last year the new MacBooks came out in late June and were eligible for the back-to-school promotion. The iMac, on the other hand, didn't come out until late in the year, missing not only the school promo, but costing Apple a fair bit of holiday sales. They come out when they're ready.

So perhaps the question is why do you always do this? (Wanting one at a time there isn't a new model)
 
Not at all. And the PBG4 and MPB I've owned over the past decade have both been bulletproof and relatively long-lasting. The PB was good for 6 years, and my 2010 MBP was still chugging along nicely at 3+ when it was stolen. Neither could be considered a 3D graphics powerhouse by any stretch, at any point in their life cycle.

I guess I don't see how buying a 2013 rMBP should be any different, and it seemed like you were implying the latter was already hobbled by its ultra-high resolution.

Sorry! That wasn't my intention at all, I just figure if the poster can hold out and doesn't desperately need the unit now, waiting until October might present with additional benefit to enjoy throughout the lifespan of his machine.
 
I think someone missed the point of the thread.

I'm not sure he did. What he's saying is Apple isn't "doing" anything to anybody. No job that you do could conceivably "require" you to wait - so if you think you need it now, get it now.

I used to feel the same way until I actually started using my devices in a professional capacity.

The bottom line is why does it matter if Apple goes with an integrated GPU in the 15"? If it performs just as well by any reasonable test then it shouldn't matter if it's powered by magical hamsters that draw the graphics on the back of the screen.
 
The bottom line is why does it matter if Apple goes with an integrated GPU in the 15"? If it performs just as well by any reasonable test then it shouldn't matter if it's powered by magical hamsters that draw the graphics on the back of the screen.

I'm thinking they'd have to add just a tiny bit of thickness to the screen to get the hamsters to fit. :D
 
Well, err... yes. If you say so. :D

I'm just correcting somebody who doesn't remember there ever being a dGPU in the 13" MBP.

I only learn about the existence of Macbook Pro's in 2010. Never was keen as interest for PCs in general until fairly recently. Don't understand your comments about it ... :(
 
I just bought my rMBP and got a $200 student discount as well as a $110 iTunes card and $100 off apple care, so if i return all of it and buy the new haswell rMBP i'll lose everything but the student discount?
 
I just bought my rMBP and got a $200 student discount as well as a $110 iTunes card and $100 off apple care, so if i return all of it and buy the new haswell rMBP i'll lose everything but the student discount?

the discounts all are education ones. you simply will be refunded the total minus the gift cards value.
 
I only learn about the existence of Macbook Pro's in 2010. Never was keen as interest for PCs in general until fairly recently.
Don't understand your comments about it ... :(

You said:

As far as I know the 13 inch Mac have never had a dedicated GPU

To which I stated: "Yes, it did". That's all I said. :) Those were my comments "about it". Why are you belaboring this?
 
Seriously... Buy what you need, use it till it breaks and move on. Future proofing is a myth. Plus, whoever said they're buying the laptop to keep for five years is fooling themselves. Someone who always wants the latest and greatest will trade up every couple of years. I'm surprised Apple doesn't have a leasing program like they do for cars.
 
Strangely enough, not all people want the newest and latest and can live just fine with a 2012 Mac, thus the promo works at least for those people.

Then there is also a small group of people who research a product before buying it, and in that group, there is an even smaller group caring about Haswell and what it brings to the table (better battery life and integrated graphics processor (IGP)).

And then there is Apple, not caring that much about small groups, only about what they want to do, thus September is the iPhone and iPad and iPod month, and OCTOBER is that Mac month.

Very well said. Let me more to this.

Apple is pushing new laptop after the "Return to School Promotion" because not everyone research before they buy and people that research may not care if it is Haswell or the latest CPU (i.e. they buy whatever fits their needs and lower price is a good thing to them). Last but not least, Apple gets to clear their inventories of last generation.
 
Seriously... Buy what you need, use it till it breaks and move on. Future proofing is a myth. Plus, whoever said they're buying the laptop to keep for five years is fooling themselves. Someone who always wants the latest and greatest will trade up every couple of years. I'm surprised Apple doesn't have a leasing program like they do for cars.

I keep my hardware for at least 5 years.

But all your other points stand.

I'm guessing the more convincing argument here, is that in 5 years, your laptop is going to be slow. My 1st gen macbook pro is really slow now. It is SLOW, I need a new one, and even if I waited 6 extra months all those years ago, it would have been, what? 10-15% faster? It would still be SLOW.

So, if you need it and can afford it, buy it. There WON'T be a time that you will wish "if only this was 10% faster".
 
I keep my hardware for at least 5 years.

But all your other points stand.

I'm guessing the more convincing argument here, is that in 5 years, your laptop is going to be slow. My 1st gen macbook pro is really slow now. It is SLOW, I need a new one, and even if I waited 6 extra months all those years ago, it would have been, what? 10-15% faster? It would still be SLOW.

So, if you need it and can afford it, buy it. There WON'T be a time that you will wish "if only this was 10% faster".

Well that's not entirely true. Those who buy the current MBP now will have great performance in a few years, however, those of us that wait for the haswell update will definitely have better performance on more demanding games 3-4 years down the road.

If they don't update them by the 10th of this month, then I'm probably going to have buy the current retina MBP because I really need a laptop now.
 
Not at all. Took the crying and bellyaching and provided the only rational solution.

I think so. If all the "crying and bellyaching" bothers you, why respond at all? If you can't contribute anything, don't even waste your time.
 
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