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Like I said, wait until you can't any more. There's no point in upgrading right now if you can wait, because the 3870's lack of OpenCL is completely irrelevant right now.

If you can hold out till the next Mac Pro, there's a fair to decent chance that a 5870 will be a BTO option and people will be on to flash them again. If not, 4870s will be dirt cheap at that time.

I heard Quartz is even not supported on the 3870? I'm more than satisfied with my 3870 and Leopard 10.5, would I see any worse performance by moving to Snow Leopard?
 
And this article is credible why? This is nothing more than someone's rantings. This is not news.

Normally I would be 100% in agreement.

However, Newegg has all of the EVGA GTX285 cards as "deactivated", most notably the Mac one. EVGA themselves had them all "out of stock" when I checked yesterday.

Tigerdirect will only sell you an EVGA GTX285 if you buy it with a power supply.($600 +)

It certainly seems that there is a tightening in supply.

As we saw with the 8800GT, once they were gone...they were gone.
 
I heard Quartz is even not supported on the 3870? I'm more than satisfied with my 3870 and Leopard 10.5, would I see any worse performance by moving to Snow Leopard?

Quartz Extreme should work perfectly on the 3870. I'm pretty sure it's worked on every card since the AGP Radeon. :)
 
Wait if you can....

I'm waiting for the next GPU update for the Mac Pro, I will be using Windows 7 on my Mac so i want to use a capable GPU to work with OpenGL and DX 11 and I don't think the 285 GTX will support DX11 So my advice wait, I am, it's not that far off until the new Mac Pro will arrive or maybe the 295GTX Mac Edition is coming out but on Apple site it says the 285 GTX ships in 24hrs in the US
 
Quartz Extreme should work perfectly on the 3870. I'm pretty sure it's worked on every card since the AGP Radeon. :)

Yeah, wherever that rumor came from, it's completely spurious. Quartz doesn't seem to be very hard to support.  doesn't even really acknowledge its existence any more, having moved on to Core Image, Core animation, etc.
 
Yeah, wherever that rumor came from, it's completely spurious. Quartz doesn't seem to be very hard to support.  doesn't even really acknowledge its existence any more, having moved on to Core Image, Core animation, etc.

Probably from the Hackintosh community. Quartz Extreme was something that wasn't exactly supported out of the box for them originally... But it is pretty old tech.
 
Well it looks like if you want a GTX 285 Mac card you'd better hurry. According to Anandtech the GT 200 series of cards has been end of life'd.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3659

Now the decision becomes harder. Get a GTX 285 now or wait to see if the ATI 5870 comes to the Mac? Then there's still the issue of the card possibly being crippled if it does come out (no DVI, etc.).
 
Well it looks like if you want a GTX 285 Mac card you'd better hurry. According to Anandtech the GT 200 series of cards has been end of life'd.

Apple planned to send mine by October 19th (as I wrote, I ordered it on September 28th). I'm just curious to hear what they will tell me tomorrow.

Of course I would be much happier to grab a 5870 if given the chance, but as it has been said it doesn't look to be around the corner.
 
Think it's worth getting this for a 2008 Mac Pro w/8800GT to have something that will last a few more years?

I'd hate to miss out and then have any new cards not work with the 2008 Mac Pro.
 
Think it's worth getting this for a 2008 Mac Pro w/8800GT to have something that will last a few more years?

I'd hate to miss out and then have any new cards not work with the 2008 Mac Pro.

That's exactly what I'm worried about. My most immediate concern is that the 5870 (if ATI makes a Mac version) would be crippled in some crazy way, like no DVI, PCIe 3.0 only, 2010 Mac Pro only, only runs on Tuesdays, etc. etc.

However, the main reason for me getting a new graphics card is gaming in Boot Camp. Secondarily it would be for OpenCL in OS X, since my 3870 doesn't (and won't) support it.

That being said, the GTX 285 is only a DirectX 10 card. The 5870 is a DirectX 11 card. (And the 5870 runs circles around it in performance.) Since your 8800GT does OpenCL, and assuming you won't do any hardcore DX11 Windows gaming, it should still be fine for a while. In fact, as of now the GTX 285's OS X performance has been poor at best, being no better than the GT 120 and the 8800GT. And we all know how great the OS X gaming scene is.
 
Since your 8800GT does OpenCL, and assuming you won't do any hardcore DX11 Windows gaming, it should still be fine for a while. In fact, as of now the GTX 285's OS X performance has been poor at best, being no better than the GT 120 and the 8800GT.


Want what you've been smoking.


GTX285 leaves GT120 for dead. 8800GT running far back in the distance.

I'd buy one now.

Apple has them for $450...there's a few other places to save $25-50.

But i'm gonna guess that these cards hold their value for awhile, so you could sell yours in 6 months and still get some $$$ toward a 5870.

(Mac G5 6800 cards still get $200 while PC version is worth $30-80 used)

http://www.barefeats.com/nehal11.html
 
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