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Example of an External Dock and GPU Over Thunderbolt Technology
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One could argue that a connection to the current iMac display should also allow use of the graphics card and cpu in the iMac, ie, the iMac is the dock, albeit an expensive one.
Not even close. The most Apple has really done is firewire vs USB but then again firewire actually had advantages over USB.
With Sony, I have no clue where to start. Betamax, minidisk player, sony memory stick and its countless iterations (literally) that aren't compatible with its own cameras half the time, (I wont count Blu Ray since it won the battle), Atrac file format, Digital8, the list seriously goes on and on with them.
Not true. There are generic memory sticks on the market.
Sony doesn't just always do proprietary everything... they abandon it extremely fast and reinvent the wheel each time. No one would want to license anything from Sony because of how fast they are to drop things. Wouldn't be worth writing a business plan much less production.
Even the memory stick has seen a few form factor changes over time.
Too bad Apple took their usual path of style over function with the Antennagate special. If they would have put the antenna where it belongs, I'd be making calls with the bloody thing, tiny screen and all.
Oh well, despite massive denial & public statements "they all do that", which only made Apple look worse, perhaps next time they'll think twice before ignoring their very own engineers warning. (or not)
Oh hell, throw in SACD (super audio CD) and don't forget the much loved (NOT!) digital tape and digital tape players that lasted not even a year when they had that lovely minidisk launch you already mentioned.
I don't know what is more evil of Sony... the memory stick changes or the proprietary batteries that change form factors ever year or so with the magical discontinuation of the old ones... you know... to force you into a new Cybercrap, er shot camera every 2 years.
Apple has at least had consistency. The dock connector has been safe... Sony would have changed the dongle 10 times by now.
Firewire is not a good comparison IMO. Firewire was an Apple name for a technology that was not a proprietary Apple thing. (What was the non apple name? UUE something or other?). Apple just endorsed it and integrated it more heavily. Most PC's required you buy a card. You could argue mini-display port, but again, it was just something no one else ran with when Apple did. Sony usually goes to the extreme of creating a Sony only connector, port, etc. The dock connector is the only true Apple made Apple only thing I can actually think of.
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I think it would be great if Apple build a Graphic Card in the Apple Display!!!
Interestingly Sony has their own implementation of FireWire known as i.Link, same protocol, different connector.
Because it is highlighting technology which may be used with forthcoming Apple products...
Someone I know told me that something similar will be adopted by Apple at some point in the future.
There, happy now?
6650M, sure, but a faster GPU will definitely take a hit. See e.g. this, about 50% drop in performance. PCIe x4 is still 16Gb/s so TB is even slower than that.
http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/25/gtx_480_sli_pcie_bandwidth_perf_x16x16_vs_x4x4
This article seems to demonstrate the contrary....
Isn't Thunderbolt a double 10 Gb/s bus? It should be at least as fast as PC-e X4
This article seems to demonstrate the contrary....
Isn't Thunderbolt a double 10 Gb/s bus? It should be at least as fast as PC-e X4
See my link above as well. It seems to vary a lot. In MW2, the drop was about 50% but in Crysis there was no change. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense.
Yeah, but with limits. 10Gb/s for PCIe and 10Gb/s for DisplayPort. Only the PCIe signal can be used for transferring data between the GPU and other parts of the computer, DP is limited to video and audio.
It seems like a great idea. I wish they would just use the DisplayPort and just put up with the standard (despite it being a stupid use for DisplayPort)...they must know that Apple have a higher chance of getting ThunderBolt off the ground as its highly likely going to be a major part of future MacBooks and even iPads, iPhones and iPods.
It seems no manufacturer gives a damn about how hard it'll be for everyone to have to piddle about with all these stupid connectors, when it would be VERY easy to consolidate into a single port type.
It seems no manufacturer gives a damn about how hard it'll be for everyone to have to piddle about with all these stupid connectors, when it would be VERY easy to consolidate into a single port type.
Hang on, Sony used USB casue they they do not wish to pay apple liscening fees for using displayport right, how is this any different to Apple refusing to adopt blueray? Sorry but the whole industry is full of hypocrits, Apple is not exampt. To be honest the whole TB is a huge bag of hurt, USB 3 has already won, TB will be non standardised with Apple doing their own thing and TB devices will cost much more then the USB 3 alternative.
Apple has lost me as a future customer of the iMac cause of the stupid TB port, as I use my Imac as a external monitor, and the current generation does not support display mode unless the source is a TB device, typical stupid Apple move of alienating all previsous versions of hardware.
Sony themselves are plan idiots when it comes to memory cards and lost me when they made excellent MP3 players and forced thier horried software on me.
Apple has lost me as a future customer of the iMac cause of the stupid TB port, as I use my Imac as a external monitor, and the current generation does not support display mode unless the source is a TB device, typical stupid Apple move of alienating all previsous versions of hardware.
Sony themselves are plan idiots when it comes to memory cards and lost me when they made excellent MP3 players and forced thier horried software on me.
Yea, it really doesn't. Crysis, one of the most GPU demanding games in history, sees no real difference (less than 5%) between x16 and x4....
Interesting, so we can assume that TB is equiparable to a PC-e x2 or so.
so apple's going copy the media dock like mba copied the original vaio and chiclet keys? where are the litigation lawyers
monkey see, monkey do
Firstly, where did Apple copy the dock?
Even if they did, this concept has been referred to on a number of occasions and in no way an invention.
Secondly, the MBA didn't copy the VAIO. On the other hand, the chiclet keys have existed for years and were probably first to find in a Texas Instruments calculator. I hope you were just trying to be funny.