General Exceeding the EU Volume limit on iOS 11

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by Makale.Helvetia, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Makale.Helvetia macrumors 6502a

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    Hi all;

    as all European users know we have EU volume limits on our devices. Most uf us are complaining from this

    if you have one yellow 6 red bars on your headphone volume hud, you have the limit, and no way to exceed it, full volume is also lower than american devices, we can not use it on full capability..unfortunately

    modding celestial plist as <key>volumeLimits</key> <dict> <key>Headphone</key> <real>1.25</real> </dict> was working on ios 9,it was modding the hud a 8 red bars instead of 6 and the limit was gone..they patched,changed the way of the file, or banned it for modding. now this method is not working with ibackupbot.

    anybody find a solution, or is it working on ios 11 betas? listening to music with that limit cuts the all joy from it.
     
  2. Prabas macrumors 6502a

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    Then turn it off if you don't like it. No one is forcing you to keep it on.
     
  3. MrGimper macrumors 601

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    Anything wrong with the obvious option of just turning it off? Settings > Music > Volume Limit > Toggle "EU Volume Limit" off ?

    This setting is present in iOS 10 and iOS 11 beta.
     
  4. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    nope



    if you watch this video, you'll understand what i want to tell
     
  5. MrGimper macrumors 601

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    I'm still confused .... If you look at the Max. Volume bar when you toggle the setting, with it off it's at 100% and with it on it's at 75%. I'm not seeing your point with this video, just toggle the setting off to get 100% volume.
     
  6. VSG macrumors regular

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    If it's actually too low for you, I suggest doing two things:

    1. Disable the toggle "EU Volume Limit",
    2. In iTunes before syncing music to your device, make it a habit to manually adjust the volume for each album to (almost) +100 %. It's set to the 0 % (no volume enhancement) by default. You can reach this via context-click > Information > Options > Volume Adjustment on each song/album.

    If both aren't enough for you, look out for a headset that amplifies volume (there are some).
    And if that still isn't, I'd schedule an appointment with an otologist. ;)
     
  7. KALLT macrumors 601

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    The OP claims that iPhones sold in the EU have a lower maximum volume regardless of the volume-limit toggle. I concur with the otologist remark.
     
  8. bbrks macrumors 65816

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    Nonsense.... Europe here and screenshot from settings
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Johnluke91 macrumors member

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    I confirm what was said by Makale. iPhones sold in the European Union (i'm italian) have a limit on the maximum volume on headphones because of a law. The sound cannot exceed 100 decibels, while the iPhone does not Europeans arrive at 120 decibels. The iPad is not involved as it is not sold with headphones in the box; in fact I'd rather listen to music from my iPad when I can.

    To Makale: I haven't installed iOS 11 beta on my iPhone but ibackupbot hasn't added support for this version, so I don't know if it will work at the moment.
     
  10. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    at last somebody got the main point :)

    i'm searching to find a way to dismiss that internal limit of eu devices,but none of these tricks worked (ibackupbot)

    i wonder if it's possible to do it on ios 11 betas, but on the other side, i think about, they banned it on ios 10, no way to leave it free on ios 11
     
  11. strategicthinke macrumors 6502

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    Can anybody confirm if the UK iPhones also have this limit?
     
  12. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    nearly the whole EU units got this limit
     
  13. elfary macrumors regular

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    There are two limits enforced in the EU:

    85 decibles (user removable)
    100 decibels (non user removable)

    Both measured with bundled earphones.

    iOS EU LIMIT DISABLE toggle removes the 85 decibels limit. Not the 100 decibels one.

    That means that no EU iPhone headphone port will sound as loud as an EU iPad (those are not capped cause the are not sold with bundled earphones). Plus EU iPhones have colored volume squares and iPads do not.

    That's the way it is. CENELEC has the regulations publicly available.

    EU iPhones -> 0'5 volts with no load
    Non EU iPhones -> 1 volt with no load

    End of story.
     
  14. itsmilo macrumors 68000

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    European iPhones also have this annoying high volume pop up which lights up the screen everytime you change the volume when its above 60% (?).

    hated it, because it always stayed on for 10+ seconds. this and no ugly huge CE logos on the back of the device were one of the reasons to get an US iPhone 7 Plus. being over 100 bucks cheaper also helped haha
     
  15. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Only for that reason, i'll buy non Eu device. It's hard to find them in turkey but anyway :)

    Did you try that method on iOS 11 betas? I mentioned on my first post
     
  16. strategicthinke macrumors 6502

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    What about Bluetooth headphones and the AirPods? Do they also have those limits?
     
  17. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, i wonder is it enabled on bt headsets and airpods as well
     
  18. strategicthinke macrumors 6502

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    The reason why it is so important to me is that I've been listening just 2 nots ahead of the “EU recommended level” (the first red one, if you use the EarPods that come with the device. However, I'm finding it extremely low in most situations. The reason I'm doing it is because I'm trying to avoid permanent hearing impairment, and the “2 knots above the recommended level” (I use it with the Bass Booster on, which makes the sound lower - that's why I don't mind going above the recommended level for long listening sessions). Still, in case the AirPods are NOT bound by the 100 decibels, then by using it on that level I may be causing damage to my hearing... I'm quite torn apart about this... I really appreicate your help, guys.
     
  19. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    So can we say AirPods are louder than wired headphones? Because that limit is only for wired headphones I think. There is no warning or colored hud on Bluetooth headphone level. That makes me confused
     
  20. strategicthinke macrumors 6502

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    I’m confused too... Can somebody help us?
     
  21. brunosh macrumors regular

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    >>Off-topic<<
    Why would people do this to iOS? People complain that iOS is ugly and then do this. It's hideous!
     
  22. RamGuy macrumors 6502a

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    If I remember correctly you have the same limit on the Lightning to headphone/minijack-adapter as well. The part number on the one sold in the EU is different from the one sold in the US and I think someone tested it and confirmed that the amplification was weaker on the EU one compared to the US one.

    I don't think this is affecting bluetooth headphones as they are sold separately. This rule seems to only apply to devices that are bundled with earphones/headphones. As long as it's sold separately the same laws does not apply and as bluetooth earphones like the AirPods do all the amplification on the buds themselves there is no reason why they should have the same limits. But who really knows.
     
  23. Makale.Helvetia thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    if someone can test the difference, we can be sure about it :)
     
  24. Johnluke91 macrumors member

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    At the end of August I'll try the AirPods and I will tell the difference of sound maximum between iPhone and iPad.
    However I don't think with the AirPods volume will be more powerful because the volume limit EU is in iPhone software.
     
  25. bbrks macrumors 65816

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    Because people like it. It's a free world, right :)
    And it's beautiful....
    [​IMG]
     

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