iPad mini Excellent Quality Text in App Store App Summary?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by AndyGarton, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. AndyGarton macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    Click on an app in the App Store on your mini (portrait mode) and check out the small text which appears (e.g. in the Ratings and Reviews section) - is it me or is this really nice quality compared to Safari say at a similar font size? :confused:
  2. Bakari45 macrumors regular

    Jun 17, 2010
    I'm not sure I noticed a huge difference, but I do think Apple needs to optimize the font size for this device. I use the Atomic Web browser because it allows me to change and save the font size for individual websites. The Safari font size is just too small for comfortable reading.
  3. hyteckit Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    Yes. Safari sucks in font rendering. Maybe that's why scrolling is much smoother on iOS than Android? Not sure.

    Fonts look much better in the apple store.
  4. AndyGarton thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    I think/hope this means there is potential for an OS update to improve the quality of small text.
  5. hyteckit Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    Just found out about the mercury browser. Try it out. Better font rendering and can change the default font size.
  6. KittyKatta macrumors 6502a


    Feb 24, 2011
    Instead of improving the quality of small text then how about eliminating it all together?

    My opinion has always been that the lack of retina isn't what hurts the screen experience, it's the lack of a default for minimum text size.. Throughout the Mini you can see the UI and 1st party apps are ideal for a 9.7" tablet but a bit too small and jagged when scaled down for a 7.9".

    Many 3rd party apps allow users to adjust text size so in apps like Kindle, Pocket, Flipboard etc then the default text is a bit small but the next size up looks great even without retina. So the fix isn't in new hardware, but an OS update that addresses text size.

    This is a picture of the app store on the iPad Mini (back) vs iPhone 5 (front) where the iPhone text is actually bigger than the tablet text. Yes, the text is readable on both but it's far from ideal to have a 4" phone easier to read than a 7.9" tablet.

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  7. hyteckit Guest

    Jul 29, 2007
    Yes. The next iOS update should have the UI settings.

    For default button icon size:
    small, medium, large

    For default text size:
    9pt to 24pt
  8. AndyGarton thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    Eliminating small text is certainly an option, but if it can work acceptably in the app store (it's never going to be as great as a retina display of course), why not everywhere else?


    I did already try it, it helps in some sites for sure, but breaks others (especially forum post lists where text starts to overlap buttons) - as above though, just making the text larger may not be the answer.
  9. matneh macrumors regular

    Apr 2, 2008
    I think there is a potential, but not sure if it's going to happen. It would mean the built-in app behavior is changed depending on whether it's running on a mini or not, and that kind of ruins the original argument of "iPad apps run unchanged on the mini"

    I think the observations here are correct, and instead of everyone posting "iPad mini screen sucks" threads, it would be much wiser if everyone would start posting "Default text font and size in Safari on the iPad mini is not optimal for the screen" threads. Who wants to be the first to start? :)
  10. klover macrumors 6502a

    Jun 7, 2009
    Yup, a lot of my screen complaints could be solved with some kind of DPI slider in iOS.
  11. chleuasme macrumors 6502

    Apr 17, 2012
    last time someone tried (KittyKatta who posted here, in this thread, too), people were not getting the point.
    maybe a merge to not disseminate infos/posts?
  12. AndyGarton thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    I'd be disappointed to see this thread merged with that as my point is really different - the small text in the app store info section looks good. I don't know why, but it does! Obviously larger text looks better but I see "making everything larger" as a workaround rather than a real solution (apart from a retina display of course :) ).
  13. Ladybug macrumors 65832


    Apr 13, 2006
  14. chleuasme macrumors 6502

    Apr 17, 2012
    I don't have an iPad at hand... one question: is it true in landscape too?
    It could be related to the text anti-aliasing tactic used for iOS, or this specific app.
  15. AndyGarton thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    Landscape is much better generally, even in Safari, so the difference between the app store and Safari is much less noticeable.
  16. GeorgieAcevedo macrumors 6502a


    Apr 12, 2012
    New York City
  17. justinf77 macrumors 6502

    May 18, 2003
    Ya, for web browsing in safari I usually flip to landscape on my mini, especially for a site like macrumors with lots of small text. It looks significantly better.
  18. chleuasme macrumors 6502

    Apr 17, 2012
    no, I mean,
    you're talking about the app store. I ask you if the size of font is the same in landscape for the reviews.
    because of orientation changes capability, sub-pixel anti-aliasing isn't used on iOS.
    text in Safari could be anti-aliased differently than in the app store (not even talking about orientation).
  19. AndyGarton thread starter macrumors member

    Sep 15, 2007
    I think it is anti aliased differently. The font in the App Store looks identical to me in portrait and landscape. As you say, Safari doesn't seem to have the same capability.

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