Experience with new Mini after 2 days

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by Beaverman3001, Jul 9, 2010.

  1. Beaverman3001 macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
    This new mini that just released, is my first ever Mac. I have been a life long Windows user, but I figured I'd give some perspective on the new Mini for those who still aren't sure about pulling the trigger.

    When I bought it I wasn't expecting great performance, knowing Apple's hardware choices verse custom built machines. I was pleasantly surprised to find the 320m gpu can run WoW, on Ultra (1920x1080 wide screen resolution), in crowded areas just fine. The only caveat being Dalaran so far, but that is expected. I was anticipating only being able to run the game in low/medium settings. I've even been able to use the built in recording feature for the Mac WoW client on ultra with no lag what so ever.

    As for performance of load times and video editing, the stock HD is the weak link for sure. If you are going to buy a new one, I'd greatly recommend getting another HD to exchange out. The stock one is bearable for everyday tasks but if you consider yourself any type of "power user", get a Momentus XT or SSD. Although I'd have to question a true power user buying a Mini in the first place.

    While this is a little off topic of the Mini itself, I must say I love the UI and implementation of time machine compared to any other backup programs I've used.

    I know there isn't a huge point to this post, but I do plan on testing out Steam games this week/weekend and trying to get some average fps listings for TF2, HL2, Portals, and WoW as I have seen numerous posts asking for this information. If anyone without a Mini wants to test something more specific, let me know and I'll do what I can.
  2. BlindSoul macrumors 6502

    May 30, 2010
    Thanks for the thread :) I'm feeling way better now with my buying. Getting it on the 14th July , Can't wait!
  3. bluedevils macrumors member

    Sep 7, 2007
    If you were a power user, you would get the mini server with the 7200rpm drives vs the 5400rpm drives in the basic mini.
  4. glitch44 macrumors 65816

    Feb 28, 2006
    I'm psyched to see your FPS listings on the games. Thanks for that.
  5. Tressley macrumors newbie

    Jul 9, 2010
    The addition of the NVIDIA GeForce 320M and the HDMI port were the two biggest updates for me.

    I'm pretty sure that Steam requires NVIDIA 320M and above. Just in time!
  6. Beaverman3001 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
    Here are some FPS listings for WoW, steam is a work in progress as I just installed the client.

    This is with playing WoW on OS X (10.6.3), Ultra settings, at 1920x1080 wide screen resolution. This is also on the US Blackrock server, which is one of the oldest/highest populated servers. I doubt you'll find a server with more average characters online.

    Orgrimmar: 16-22 FPS (Middle of Orgrimmar, near AH/BANK, the rest of Orgrimmar is 30+ FPS)
    Dalaran: 12-22 FPS (Depends if you are near a bank or not, The Underbelly is 23-30 FPS)
    Isle of Conquest: 15-30 FPS (15 was only in starting area, 20-30 during the match)

    Most of these numbers seem low, but anything above 13-14 FPS felt completely lag free for me. Unfortunatly, I am using a LCDTV for a monitor, and it caps itself out at 30 FPS, so for less intensive zones I cannot provide a accurate max FPS.

    In Isle of Conquest I felt no lag during fights at all, and tried to stay near big battles as much as possible. This was on a Moonkin so you know there were always plenty of spell effects going off during combat.

    I don't raid so I cannot provide numbers for that, but all of the 5 mans I've ran on my Mage that I am leveling have felt perfectly smooth, even with mass AOE going on (living bomb and seed of corruption spam).

    You could definitely turn down a setting or two and seem far greater FPS numbers, as I know some people are FPS whores. Personally if it is above 15 FPS and feels smooth I'm fine, but that is all personal preference. I did however notice that by using a Nostromo GamePad (n52te) over USB, I am losing 6-8 FPS. Unfortunately it isn't a option to not use it for me, so these numbers I posted are with me losing FPS from the game pad. If you are someone who isn't dependent on USB devices for gaming (Nostromo, headset, etc) you will get even better FPS.
  7. BlindSoul macrumors 6502

    May 30, 2010
    Can you try using Can You Run It and run a few popular games and let us know if your Mac Mini could run them? Thanks :)
  8. Nabby macrumors regular

    Jul 10, 2008
    +1 for me as well, mine arrives on the 12th. However, this is going to be my media center machine.

  9. Beaverman3001 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
    Unfortunately Can You Run It is Windows only as far as I can tell. I haven't installed Windows 7 yet, but will mostly likely do that this weekend sometime. If and when I do I'll get back to you with the results.
  10. mrfoof82 macrumors 6502a

    May 26, 2010
    Lawton, OK
    No, Steam certainly runs on older hardware. I have a friend with an old MBP 15 with a Radeon X1800 XT which is only about 40% of the power of a 320M at best, and it runs Team Fortress 2 et al with the settings cranked down.

    The Mac Mini's performance is roughly on par with a 2-year old desktop PC with something between an nVidia 7900GS and a Radeon HD 2600 Pro.

    So things to expect (Windows)...

    Assassin's Creed, 1280x1024, 0xAA, Trilinear filtering, Max Quality - 20 to 24fps
    Call of Duty 4, 1280x1024, 0xAA, Trilinear filtering, Max Quality - 28 to 36fps
    Crysis, 1280x1024, 0xAA, Trilinear filtering, High Quality, - 6 to 9 fps
    Half Life 2: Ep 2, 1280x1024, 0xAA, Trilinear filtering, Very High Quality - 40 to 50fps
    Quake Wars, 1280x1024, 0xAA, Trilinear filtering, High Quality - 35 to 40fps
  11. Beaverman3001 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
  12. ValSalva macrumors 68040


    Jun 26, 2009
    Burpelson AFB
    Thanks for the thread. I'm sure you will be very happy with your Mini but this confirms that I would want the server Mac Mini with its dual 500 GB 7200 RPM HDDs. The Mini sure is beautiful hardware isn't it?
  13. BlindSoul macrumors 6502

    May 30, 2010
    I don't really understand the fps thing. When does it mean it'll work well?
    And by the way, The 7200RPS thing. Is it of the Hard Disk or the CD-Rom? Is it the speed of the CD-Rom reading the disc or what? Can someone explain me more about it?

    Thank you! :)
  14. Dont Hurt Me macrumors 603

    Dont Hurt Me

    Dec 21, 2002
    Yahooville S.C.
    I have had a new Mini now for a week and am very impressed and very happy with it, hooking it to a hdtv just makes it a iMac killer in my view. 2.4 imac is now the wife's and the 2.4 Mini is mine connected to a 32 hdtv I found in the trash. Just terrific in my view. Mini gets 9 out of 10 stars and i rate it awesome! Seems to be such a better choice then a all in one for me and the hdtv has no yellowing:D
  15. bry223 macrumors regular

    Mar 1, 2004
    Wow my post didnt get posted , anywho, I'm suprised to see how well WoW runs on the new mac mini, I'm sure you'll get a huge performance boost just lowering the shadow quality, its a FPS killer in that game
  16. Beaverman3001 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
    For sure, you can knock some things down slightly and be good to go in any zone.
  17. Nuttydev macrumors 6502

    Mar 6, 2009
    Bristol, England.
    Hmm interesting, I have an old release 15" MBP with a 128mb X1600 and I am able to run CS:S and HL2 on max graphics, on 2048x1152 resolution (through windows though, resolution has to be lowered on OSX) at around 35/40fps.

    I'd be interested to see how the mini plays games though, as my choice is to either get a mini or build a PC and I'd love to play some games I haven't been able to but I prefer OSX over windows for the things I do, so I'm willing to compromise playing high end games for usability, as I have a 360 and PS3 anyway. But yeah would be interesting to see how they run in windows.
  18. Beaverman3001 thread starter macrumors 6502

    May 20, 2010
    Installed TF2, so far everything on Medium settings seems perfectly fine at 1920x1080 widescreen resolution. I don't have any FPS numbers right now but I'll try and get some real information this weekend.

    To be honest I hate TF2 so it is painful to play but I'm sure I'll get around to trying it out more.
  19. ProwlingTiger macrumors 65816


    Jan 15, 2008
    For that price, you could have an iMac :/
  20. Kebabselector macrumors 68030


    May 25, 2007
    Birmingham, UK
    Depends if you like glossy screens :p
  21. PerfSeeker macrumors 6502a

    Jul 10, 2010
    It's just a shame Apple won't provide higher-end Minis for the rest of us who don't want the all-in-one PC.
  22. sjinsjca macrumors 68020


    Oct 30, 2008
    It's the spin-rate of the platter(s) in the hard disk.

    Faster = higher throughput and lower latency, in theory.

    An SSD, of course, has nothing spinning. Faasssst. But ouchy in the pocketbook for the moment.
  23. TrojanX macrumors member


    Jul 6, 2010
    Houston, Tx
  24. dudeofblokes macrumors regular


    Nov 3, 2007
    carrickfergus, northern ireland, united kingdom
    thats the best description ive read yet for SSD costs lol
  25. dudeofblokes macrumors regular


    Nov 3, 2007
    carrickfergus, northern ireland, united kingdom
    i agree i just purchased the core i7 imac, im not disappointed but id certainly would loved to had gotten the new mini with a screen off my choice, i love the mini she looks great but id happily take a larger form factor for a more powerful machine

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