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But did they die?
Ha. There were indeed many dead accounts. When that part of the forum was still open, you could peruse the old threads and see all the "suspended" epitaphs. Others were so psychologically damaged, they just disappeared. It was essentially a graveyard for many accounts. RIP
 
I feel sorry for people that would be “harmed” by words on a screen. I don’t mean that in some pretentious or condescending way. I mean I really wish that they could be helped rather than suffer.

I’m insulted and attacked quite regularly, even here. I probably can’t even remember any of it if it’s happened at least a year ago. Who has the facilities to hold onto that? Sounds a little egocentric to take things personally, especially considering we are all faceless and interacting impersonally. That’s a long subject and not just a stab at anybody. If we are so insulted by every slight, it merely means we value OUR perception of OUR self more than we value our role in the society in which we participate or how we assess personal worth.

Moderation and civility online is one thing. Allowing one’s self to be harmed by words is a subject all its own. If you’re afraid of the things people say to you, you couldn’t imagine what they’re thinking about you.
 
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Soon with so many "rules" if you get outside from "welcome" thank you" words you will get moderated...the freedom of speech is more and more limited...very few words are allowed in digital world, even if those words are just your opinion
EU, has already started to allow more and more talking and opinion without any toxic involvement, hopefully in US and Asia(hardly here) will follow. In EU if you go and say the straight truth you are allowed, here it must be soften up and try to drag it and make it like you are saying it to an 5 year old child
 
Soon with so many "rules" if you get outside from "welcome" thank you" words you will get moderated...the freedom of speech is more and more limited...very few words are allowed in digital world, even if those words are just your opinion
EU, has already started to allow more and more talking and opinion without any toxic involvement, hopefully in US and Asia(hardly here) will follow
Hyperbole much? Let's try to stay within the facts. No one is stifling your right to freedom of expression in the real world. Posting on MR is a privilege not a right.
 
Hyperbole much? Let's try to stay within the facts. No one is stifling your right to freedom of expression in the real world. Posting on MR is a privilege not a right.
Dont use words that you dont know their meanings. In EU they already merge the real world with digital word and they starting to face the same laws
If you insult one or attack somebody in digital world there, you are facing almost the same accusations as in the real world, here you just get your account removed. The flip side you have much more freedom to express your opinion regarding a topic.
Posting on MR is a privilege ? Im sorry but Life is a privilege not something that you can live without it. MR is becoming more and more full of trolls , thank god that there are mods and the people that are making/writing the articles with real informations and rumours
Privilege comes from the word privilegium, meaning a law for just one person, a benefit enjoyed by an individual or group beyond what is available to others. This is available for everyone who wants to be a part of this forum
 
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I get banned from every site I joined - still surprised I’m still here, anyway…


I run like 50 websites of my own. Most are crap or for my artists but some have forums and I actually did this experiment without any restrictions at all. It just turned into a spam and porn fest and everyone left.



Anyway, instead of suspending members who have been at the site for awhile, I would make it a condition that they had to remove obvious spam from the site and when they reach the magic number they get all their privileges back. I always hated getting banned from a site I had been in for years and the best way to reform behaviour is to give them a taste of what it’s like on the other side.



Especially those that quip about moderation of the site. Give them a taste of it (doing some simple moderation) and I bet they self-moderate from now on. I would only do this for long time members but prefer “community service” as punishment as opposed to suspensions or outright bans of established members. Maybe give them the option of waiting the suspension out or helping out at the website.



I have never done this, but this type of experiment I would be most interested to see…
 
I get banned from every site I joined - still surprised I’m still here, anyway…


I run like 50 websites of my own. Most are crap or for my artists but some have forums and I actually did this experiment without any restrictions at all. It just turned into a spam and porn fest and everyone left.



Anyway, instead of suspending members who have been at the site for awhile, I would make it a condition that they had to remove obvious spam from the site and when they reach the magic number they get all their privileges back. I always hated getting banned from a site I had been in for years and the best way to reform behaviour is to give them a taste of what it’s like on the other side.



Especially those that quip about moderation of the site. Give them a taste of it (doing some simple moderation) and I bet they self-moderate from now on. I would only do this for long time members but prefer “community service” as punishment as opposed to suspensions or outright bans of established members. Maybe give them the option of waiting the suspension out or helping out at the website.



I have never done this, but this type of experiment I would be most interested to see…

Fat_Guy is still here? Will someone please ban him already!!!! ;-)

Interesting idea but I can see where there could be too many issues with it. Instead of having them moderate, could potentially give them a look at what has been moderated out and why. Or maybe a CBT they need to complete with a passing score to help educate them and carry the torch as an advocate. I wouldn't necessarily leave it to members who have been around for a long time. Even newbies could learn something.
 
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I usually get banned when it came to principles of free speech and you take a stand. That happened 20 years ago on a forum of mostly kids. And I took the ban on a principle to show them you can’t have social pressure compromise values.


About 5 years ago I ran into one of those kids with the same handle and he was prattling the same stuff I used to prattle to them and it was like:



YES, Yes - It was all worth it!!!!!



No greater compliment than seeing the kids pick up something from you and use it when they think you aren’t around… 👍😀
 
If you ever read the pablum spewing from the rabble of the great unwashed you would instantly know why this is a very bad idea. Internet forums without moderation invariably devolve into shouting contests governed by incivility and those people looking to incite and reasoned and thoughtful viewpoints are invariably drowned out in the furor.
Usenet newsgroups of the past? The wild west.
 
Back when we had the PRSI forum, it was quite common that a left leaning member complain and accuse the moderation staff of excessively moderating liberal content while letting right leaning members post (what they consider) offensive conservative material.

Likewise and often at the same time, the administrators would get complains from right leaning members complaining and accuse the moderation staff of excessively moderating conservative content while letting left leaning members post (what they consider) offensive liberal material.

I will say as a former moderator, I tried to apply the rules dispassionately and give the members the benefit of the doubt. Did I make mistakes? Sure, I'm human, and I'd be lying to say every report I handled was done with perfection. The moderators work as a team, so that we cross check each other and ensure that we do all that we can, to apply the rules consistently as possible. Additionally the administrators review our actions, and oversee that we're working within the established policies and procedures.
I read your comment and completely agree.

I must admit I got confused though when I read your signature line and I had to do a double take due to the name. thanks for giving me a little chuckle today, and thanks for all the moderation work you do.
 
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