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I asked about this earlier, but decided to give it a go myself. I bought a pci to pci-express adapter off ebay for 25$, and it uses the PEX8112 bridge chip. It has a 16x slot but it's really only 1x, not like that's going to be the bottleneck or anything, lol.

Of course the first thing i tried were video card. I tried a mac geforce 6600le in the slot on my powermac g4 sawtooth running sorbet leopard. It did boot with the 6600le and I got a picture, but as soon as it booted into osx the whole system locked up. I tried it in my powermac g5, and quicksilver g4 with the same results. I then tried it with linux in my g5, but the same thing happened after the boot menu. I tried a few other non macintosh cards with the g5 in linux but it either froze or just didn't boot with any of them. Not sure what's happening, but my uneducated guess is maybe the memory location the card is at doesn't line up with where osx thinks it is or the conversion chip goofs it up. It doesn't happen on a pc when i tried it.

Regrettably I didn't have that many other pci-express cards that weren't video cards. I tried a tempo esata card I had laying around, which didn't lock the system up, however osx tiger nor leopard had any idea what to do with it. If I can find a usb card I'll give that a go.

I next tried out a dual port intel gigabit ethernet card. Much to my surprise the card worked fine in my sawtooth! Well, it worked in sorbet leopard flawlessly, but in tiger the card wasn't detected. I tried to find some drivers for it but I didn't find much in that regard. This is of great interest to me because i've been wanting to get a gig card for my sawtooth as the 10/100 ethernet takes quite a while to download large files off my file server. It's not quite as fast as it would be on an actual pci-e slot- it averages about 200-300mb/s downloading things locally, and 40-50 mb/s over the internet(I have gig internet). I think i'll keep the card in there since it works so well! I did need to secure the card on the adapter with zip ties, but it works!

I did try the same cards on my B&W powermac G3, but the adapter nor anything connected to it was detected, so it looks like the oldest you can is the sawtooth g4's.

Just thought i'd share my experience with the adapter in case it is of any help to someone!
 
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I asked about this earlier, but decided to give it a go myself. I bought a pci to pci-express adapter off ebay for 25$, and it uses the PEX8112 bridge chip. It has a 16x slot but it's really only 1x, not like that's going to be the bottleneck or anything, lol.

I tried a mac geforce 6600le in the slot on my powermac g4 sawtooth running sorbet leopard. It did boot with the 6600le and I got a picture, but as soon as it booted into osx the whole system locked up. I tried it in my powermac g5, and quicksilver g4 with the same results. I then tried it with linux in my g5, but the same thing happened after the boot menu. I tried a few other non macintosh cards with the g5 in linux but it either froze or just didn't boot with any of them. Not sure what's happening, but my uneducated guess is maybe the memory location the card is at doesn't line up with where osx thinks it is or the conversion chip goofs it up. It doesn't happen on a pc when i tried it.

Regrettably I didn't have that many other pci-express cards that weren't video cards. I tried a tempo esata card I had laying around, which didn't lock the system up, however osx tiger nor leopard had any idea what to do with it. If I can find a usb card I'll give that a go.

I next tried out a dual port intel gigabit ethernet card. Much to my surprise the card worked fine in my sawtooth! Well, it worked in sorbet leopard flawlessly, but in tiger the card wasn't detected. I tried to find some drivers for it but I didn't find much in that regard. This is of great interest to me because i've been wanting to get a gig card for my sawtooth as the 10/100 ethernet takes quite a while to download large files off my file server. It's not quite as fast as it would be on an actual pci-e slot- it averages about 200-300mb/s downloading things locally, and 40-50 mb/s over the internet(I have gig internet). I think i'll keep the card in there since it works so well! I did need to secure the card on the adapter with zip ties, but it works!

I did try the same cards on my B&W powermac G3, but the adapter nor anything connected to it was detected, so it looks like the oldest you can is the sawtooth g4's.

Just thought i'd share my experience with the adapter in case it is of any help to someone!
For Gig-E I would recommend an actual PCI card. Netgear GA311. These are cheap on eBay. I have two in my G3 Server (OSX 10.4.11 Server) and one in my G4 500mhz. No drivers necessary, they are immediately recognized by the system and just work. You may have to open System Preferences>Network first though.

Of course they are limited by the PCI bus, but they do well. I just replaced a 10+ year old one with one from eBay for $14.65 - tax and shipping included. Getting one would free up your adapter. :)

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I asked about this earlier, but decided to give it a go myself. I bought a pci to pci-express adapter off ebay for 25$, and it uses the PEX8112 bridge chip. It has a 16x slot but it's really only 1x, not like that's going to be the bottleneck or anything, lol.

Of course the first thing i tried were video card. I tried a mac geforce 6600le in the slot on my powermac g4 sawtooth running sorbet leopard. It did boot with the 6600le and I got a picture, but as soon as it booted into osx the whole system locked up. I tried it in my powermac g5, and quicksilver g4 with the same results. I then tried it with linux in my g5, but the same thing happened after the boot menu. I tried a few other non macintosh cards with the g5 in linux but it either froze or just didn't boot with any of them. Not sure what's happening, but my uneducated guess is maybe the memory location the card is at doesn't line up with where osx thinks it is or the conversion chip goofs it up. It doesn't happen on a pc when i tried it.

Regrettably I didn't have that many other pci-express cards that weren't video cards. I tried a tempo esata card I had laying around, which didn't lock the system up, however osx tiger nor leopard had any idea what to do with it. If I can find a usb card I'll give that a go.

I next tried out a dual port intel gigabit ethernet card. Much to my surprise the card worked fine in my sawtooth! Well, it worked in sorbet leopard flawlessly, but in tiger the card wasn't detected. I tried to find some drivers for it but I didn't find much in that regard. This is of great interest to me because i've been wanting to get a gig card for my sawtooth as the 10/100 ethernet takes quite a while to download large files off my file server. It's not quite as fast as it would be on an actual pci-e slot- it averages about 200-300mb/s downloading things locally, and 40-50 mb/s over the internet(I have gig internet). I think i'll keep the card in there since it works so well! I did need to secure the card on the adapter with zip ties, but it works!

I did try the same cards on my B&W powermac G3, but the adapter nor anything connected to it was detected, so it looks like the oldest you can is the sawtooth g4's.

Just thought i'd share my experience with the adapter in case it is of any help to someone!

For Gig-E I would recommend an actual PCI card. Netgear GA311. These are cheap on eBay. I have two in my G3 Server (OSX 10.4.11 Server) and one in my G4 500mhz. No drivers necessary, they are immediately recognized by the system and just work. You may have to open System Preferences>Network first though.

Of course they are limited by the PCI bus, but they do well. I just replaced a 10+ year old one with one from eBay for $14.65 - tax and shipping included. Getting one would free up your adapter. :)

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This is a good option.

I have a couple 64bit length PCI NICs from an xserve that also work out of the box in Tiger and Leopard, not so limiting by the regular PCI slot.
They were on eBay for around $20 but I don’t see any right now searching “xserve NIC”.
 
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I asked about this earlier, but decided to give it a go myself. I bought a pci to pci-express adapter off ebay for 25$, and it uses the PEX8112 bridge chip. It has a 16x slot but it's really only 1x, not like that's going to be the bottleneck or anything, lol.

Of course the first thing i tried were video card. I tried a mac geforce 6600le in the slot on my powermac g4 sawtooth running sorbet leopard. It did boot with the 6600le and I got a picture, but as soon as it booted into osx the whole system locked up. I tried it in my powermac g5, and quicksilver g4 with the same results. I then tried it with linux in my g5, but the same thing happened after the boot menu. I tried a few other non macintosh cards with the g5 in linux but it either froze or just didn't boot with any of them. Not sure what's happening, but my uneducated guess is maybe the memory location the card is at doesn't line up with where osx thinks it is or the conversion chip goofs it up. It doesn't happen on a pc when i tried it.

Regrettably I didn't have that many other pci-express cards that weren't video cards. I tried a tempo esata card I had laying around, which didn't lock the system up, however osx tiger nor leopard had any idea what to do with it. If I can find a usb card I'll give that a go.

I next tried out a dual port intel gigabit ethernet card. Much to my surprise the card worked fine in my sawtooth! Well, it worked in sorbet leopard flawlessly, but in tiger the card wasn't detected. I tried to find some drivers for it but I didn't find much in that regard. This is of great interest to me because i've been wanting to get a gig card for my sawtooth as the 10/100 ethernet takes quite a while to download large files off my file server. It's not quite as fast as it would be on an actual pci-e slot- it averages about 200-300mb/s downloading things locally, and 40-50 mb/s over the internet(I have gig internet). I think i'll keep the card in there since it works so well! I did need to secure the card on the adapter with zip ties, but it works!

I did try the same cards on my B&W powermac G3, but the adapter nor anything connected to it was detected, so it looks like the oldest you can is the sawtooth g4's.

Just thought i'd share my experience with the adapter in case it is of any help to someone!
The PC 6600 GT uses a PCI-E to AGP bridge and works just fine in a DA or QuickSilver with a Mac FCode ROM, I don't think it works in a MDD
 
I actually did buy an hp branded nic with the bcm5703 but I couldn't get it to work in my sawtooth. Does it need to be an apple branded one?
No. The one I mentioned above, the GA311 (picture up there too) is Netgear.

It is always possible that because I have the server version of Tiger on my G3 there were drivers installed I suppose. When I installed the same card in my G4 it was already running Leopard. So I can't definitively say it works in a Tiger client Mac I guess because I didn't put it in one that ran Tiger client.

But this card is circa 2006 or earlier. It's been around for quite some time and it does work on my systems.
 
I actually did buy an hp branded nic with the bcm5703 but I couldn't get it to work in my sawtooth. Does it need to be an apple branded one?

No. The one I mentioned above, the GA311 (picture up there too) is Netgear.

It is always possible that because I have the server version of Tiger on my G3 there were drivers installed I suppose. When I installed the same card in my G4 it was already running Leopard. So I can't definitively say it works in a Tiger client Mac I guess because I didn't put it in one that ran Tiger client.

But this card is circa 2006 or earlier. It's been around for quite some time and it does work on my systems.
I can confirm the xserve one works on Tiger client.

I have a PCI 10/100 card that is not Apple branded thats in my Beige G3 that also works in Tiger client. The only non-Apple branded PCI gigabit NIC I have is installed in a PC, and I don’t know what chipset it is. I think I installed it in a G4 one time to see if it would work and it didn’t.

Basically the rule with things working in Macs; is if it has the same chipset as something Apple sold/included in a Mac it’ll work. Like the netgear eyoungren mentioned. I actually have the PCMCIA version of that card and I use in it my Pismo. I can confirm it does work in Tiger client. It however does not work in Jaguar or OS 9 (if anyone was wondering).
 
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Basically the rule with things working in Macs; is if it has the same chipset as something Apple sold/included in a Mac it’ll work. Like the netgear eyoungren mentioned. I actually have the PCMCIA version of that card and I use in it my Pismo. I can confirm it does work in Tiger client. It however does not work in Jaguar or OS 9 (if anyone was wondering).
What's interesting is that the Netgear card was a 'see what happens' card. I had two of them from work sitting around at home for a few years before deciding to drop them in to my G3 and seeing what would happen. I didn't expect anything - especially after I tried a different branded card first. So, I was surprised when they showed up and worked with no hassle - and no drivers to install.

Just one of those things where I happened to have exactly the right card.

That's also why I spent some effort poking around on eBay for this specific card when the old one failed.
 
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