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Expose a little choppy (Intel graphics?)
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That means that you're fine as far as RAM goes. Is Expose always choppy with the intel graphics? Even after a reboot?
I have the old MacBook Pro with the Nvidia 8600GT, so it doesn't have integrated graphics and thus doesn't have choppy animations.
Okay, so this is what I found out. Enabling Beam Sync via Quartz Debug will no longer tie the remapping of windows and other objects on my screen to my laptops refresh rate and that removes the lag on expose. So this is not Intel's fault. However, disabling Beam Sync will also cause this terrible vertical tearing. I'm not sure where to go from here.
I notice it too, when running graphics on the intel HD chip, you get choppy expose and Dashboard animation, switching to Nvidia smooths things out.
I believe its normal, at least I don't really mind.
I believe its normal, at least I don't really mind.
I can live with it, but don't you think that the intel graphics would be able to handle something as simple and integral to the operating system as its GUI effects? A lot of effects such as the magnification on the dock were perfectly fine, its just expose (and dashboard, but I disabled that). I use expose a lot, and I run only Nvidia when on AC power, but I don't want to have to when on battery.
MBP 13'' FOREVER!
Nvidia 320, no switching cards, silent and cool, and everything is smooth...
at least for (my) normal use, which excludes superheavy gaming.
I haven't had any noise or heat issues, but this is a little annoying. Nothing I would consider getting the 13" for, but its mind boggling the Intel HD graphics can't handle it. Is it b/c of crappy drivers (and something I should expect to improve) or is this just the inferiority of the graphics?
Crappy drivers. Apple have gone all-in with nvidia so no surprise that other cards have problems in OS X. That and 10.6 have from the beginning even during the development had problems with choppy expose when 10.5 was running fine.
I just tried reinstalling but I get the same results (it's running 10.6.3 instead of 10.6.4). Just curious, how many people with the 2010 Macbook Pros are experiencing this? Is this something that you guys have come to expect, is this new, is this something you guys expect to be fixed? Because considering the significant difference between the Intel and Nvidia for something as trivial as an OS animation, I would expect this to be bigger of an issue. I know it doesn't affect much in the actual processing power of things, but I'm a little OCD about this and it makes my computing experience feel a lot more sluggish than I'd like.
On another note, I heard that the Intel performs well with Windows 7 animations with boot camp, so I don't think its a problem with the hardware.
On another note, I heard that the Intel performs well with Windows 7 animations with boot camp, so I don't think its a problem with the hardware.
It's definitely a driver issue. I personally don't believe that Apple will have this fixed anytime soon, but that's my opinion. The Intel HD graphics card issue was one of the main reasons why I decided to purchase a 17" with C2D instead of an i5. Apple definitely went the wrong direction with having an Intel HD integrated, but I guess that was expected. If only the driver was actually good. I have the same Intel HD card on my PC notebook and there are no issues that I notice.
I'm off of the A/C a lot, so I'd be using the lower graphics card. In this case... nVidia 9400m is much better than the Intel HD.
I'm off of the A/C a lot, so I'd be using the lower graphics card. In this case... nVidia 9400m is much better than the Intel HD.
I believe I read somewhere before on these forums that Apple considered this a "nonissue". Besides that, I'm basing it off of Apple's history with fixing graphics issues. They haven't exactly been great with nVidia and their history together.
That's interesting, I mean how do Macbook Pro customers think this is acceptable? As far as I know, there aren't that many complaining about this right now. I'm sure if enough people would complain about it, Apple would do something, right?
Because the Macbook Pro line is, primarily, sold to consumers who come from Windows XP, and are used to spyware slowing their system down so much they hardly notice a little chop.
If you were Apple, would you devote time and resources to fixing something that very few people care about, which probably will never be used again in another Macbook Pro?
***I'm just going from Apple's past record here; maybe they will surprise us all and fix it.
Well I did buy an Apple because I assumed it cared about its customers more than PC makers and Microsoft did. It sucks though that we have to wait for Apple to release a fix and the community can do nothing to help, especially if Apple's not even going to release one.
You'll find that OS X is a rather annoying system to troubleshoot. Support on these forums anymore is is more along the lines of: Call AppleCare, Reinstall OS X, Replace it.